From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IxnvC-0003fH-1g for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 18:15:34 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.2/8.14.0) with SMTP id lATIEbxe026797; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 18:14:37 GMT Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.2/8.14.0) with ESMTP id lATICXKH024169 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 18:12:34 GMT Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE9F364BF7 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 18:12:33 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: -1.957 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.957 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=0.642, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 343YaBzQA6OW for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 18:12:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F052F64211 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 18:12:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Ixnqw-0001Xa-Fy for gentoo-dev@gentoo.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 18:11:10 +0000 Received: from ip68-231-12-179.ph.ph.cox.net ([68.231.12.179]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 18:11:10 +0000 Received: from 1i5t5.duncan by ip68-231-12-179.ph.ph.cox.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 18:11:10 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Features and documentation Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 18:06:16 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <20071127192144.GP4368@supernova> <474D53CA.7060101@gentoo.org> <20071128211405.GA11126@supernova> <20071128213319.09f73e89@blueyonder.co.uk> <20071129053854.GD11249@supernova> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ip68-231-12-179.ph.ph.cox.net User-Agent: Pan/0.132 (Waxed in Black) Sender: news X-Archives-Salt: 88674208-57f6-4d56-87d5-49cd5c6b44cd X-Archives-Hash: af87fc493398f99e22d3e9eb5093f7cc Donnie Berkholz posted 20071129053854.GD11249@supernova, excerpted below, on Wed, 28 Nov 2007 21:38:54 -0800: > In fact, I believe exactly the opposite. What we want to create are > basic philosophies to guide us. Nailing down a million tiny details is > what makes things not fun, and what makes them impossible to learn. > We're not trying to write a specification here, we're trying to come up > with a set of guidelines that people could actually learn and remember. OK, so you are deliberately going for the "big brush strokes" general guideline approach, and don't /want/ the policy getting into details. I can respect that and will need to go back and reread the discussion to date with that in mind. Meanwhile, you still sidestepped the other question. Maybe it's getting too detailed also, but if so, directly saying so to that point would be nice, and if you just missed it, maybe this'll bring it to point: Something must have motivated you to present this now. What was it, or to put it a different way, how would have things been different in your view had this policy been in effect? Point to other examples as well if you believe they'll help clarify the effect you intend this policy to have. (BTW, I'm mailing you directly related to this as well.) -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list