From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1IC2YZ-00030W-Ii for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 21 Jul 2007 00:10:48 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with SMTP id l6L09mx8013627; Sat, 21 Jul 2007 00:09:48 GMT Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l6L07qfG011328 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2007 00:07:53 GMT Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E483F64C70 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2007 00:07:51 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: -0.704 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.704 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=-0.705, BAYES_50=0.001] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Lz9yXNNhwb8H for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2007 00:07:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0194864C97 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2007 00:07:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IC2VU-0006D3-1r for gentoo-dev@gentoo.org; Sat, 21 Jul 2007 02:07:36 +0200 Received: from ip68-231-12-71.ph.ph.cox.net ([68.231.12.71]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2007 02:07:36 +0200 Received: from 1i5t5.duncan by ip68-231-12-71.ph.ph.cox.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2007 02:07:36 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: New lists and their usage Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 00:07:22 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1184970024.8424.22.camel@inertia.twi-31o2.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ip68-231-12-71.ph.ph.cox.net User-Agent: Pan/0.131 (Ghosts: First Variation) Sender: news X-Archives-Salt: 5a2e3720-734a-43bf-a6fe-b7c7e6c8c608 X-Archives-Hash: fc5ab954952fd8ad575174b6b15499cc "Nathan Smith" posted b49843710707201553p29dcfcffq6b7f2710154767e4@mail.gmail.com, excerpted below, on Fri, 20 Jul 2007 15:53:02 -0700: > On 7/20/07, Chris Gianelloni wrote: > >> gentoo-projects: This list is for... what exactly? I've not really >> figured that one out just yet. I know it is supposed to be pretty much >> anything that doesn't fit into gentoo-dev or another project-specific >> list. Am I correct here? Is this what everyone thinks this list is >> supposed to be used for? > > From what I can tell by reading the logs of the council meeting [1], the > purpose of -project is to keep "all the flamewars and bitching" off the > -dev list. However, it seems that moderating -dev should accomplish > that purpose, so I question the need for its existence. If it is not > required reading for developers, how is it substantively different from > -user? > > [1] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/meeting-logs/20070614.txt Hopefully, dev won't end up needing moderated after all, after project is up and running well, and the outgoing council decides to take a pass on it at their last (August) meeting, both to let that happen, and to let the new council make that decision. project will ideally reduce dev traffic by half, possibly more, if people can self-moderate, thus hopefully eliminating the need for moderation. Given the controversial aspect, if self-moderation can work, it'd be better to keep it to that. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list