From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1Hy9i8-0001Yp-M1 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 16:59:17 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with SMTP id l5CGvfZ8023097; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 16:57:41 GMT Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l5CGtepa020819 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 16:55:40 GMT Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75FE364521 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 16:55:39 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: -0.713 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.713 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=-0.713] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id h7mQ0wWJOr9Y for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 16:55:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 643BC64790 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 16:55:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Hy9eS-0001hz-7v for gentoo-dev@gentoo.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 18:55:28 +0200 Received: from ip68-231-15-181.ph.ph.cox.net ([68.231.15.181]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 18:55:28 +0200 Received: from 1i5t5.duncan by ip68-231-15-181.ph.ph.cox.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 18:55:28 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: guidline to set a timeline of removal of ebuild from stable tree Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 16:55:17 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <20070612100139.GA4738@ferdyx.org> <466E772F.6010807@thefreemanclan.net> <20070612104641.GE4738@ferdyx.org> <4FA373CA-773E-4390-BD91-70F87510D6D9@cilly.mine.nu> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ip68-231-15-181.ph.ph.cox.net User-Agent: Pan/0.131 (Ghosts: First Variation) Sender: news X-Archives-Salt: a4902fec-ee4d-4427-96ec-0c0c9941008c X-Archives-Hash: 4e157d5cffbae89247f42a78d9e0ca2f cilly posted 4FA373CA-773E-4390-BD91-70F87510D6D9@cilly.mine.nu, excerpted below, on Tue, 12 Jun 2007 12:59:42 +0200: > On Jun 12, 2007, at 12:53 PM, cilly wrote: > >> Of course, there are bugs in every version. Sometimes a user must be >> able to choose which bug is more problematic, i.e. the bug in the newer >> ebuild which makes the package unusable for them or the older bug which >> has a security issue the users are aware of but not present, i.e. >> prevented by firewall. A timeline of two weeks would allow the user to >> easily downgrade and if necessary put the ebuild in overlay. > > Additional: > > Sometimes the chance for the users to place the ebuild comfortably into > overlay is simply taken, since the ebuild has been removed and doesn't > exist after a sync anymore. Keeping this short since the user list would be more appropriate for this sort of thing, but I've not seen it mentioned in the thread yet. That's one of several reasons I find FEATURES=buildpkg so useful. It is IMO the most under-publicized great feature of portage. =8^) Really. Read about it, then try it for awhile, and if you don't agree, look in the forums or ask on users for some hints on the troubleshooting and rescue methods it makes possible or much easier. (Specific hint for this thread, the ebuild is tacked onto the end of the tar.bz2-ed compressed package. That's been useful to me a couple times.) If people only knew some of the great features portage already has, the wouldn't keep asking for them. =8^) Features=buildpkg is one such feature. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list