From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1HkBmb-00021O-Np for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 05 May 2007 04:22:10 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with SMTP id l454LEt6021969; Sat, 5 May 2007 04:21:14 GMT Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l454JKHo019603 for ; Sat, 5 May 2007 04:19:20 GMT Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05098647E7 for ; Sat, 5 May 2007 04:19:20 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: -1.251 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.251 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=-1.251] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PuqpaGK7ynWp for ; Sat, 5 May 2007 04:19:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A8686449D for ; Sat, 5 May 2007 04:19:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1HkBjZ-0006zx-Mc for gentoo-dev@gentoo.org; Sat, 05 May 2007 06:19:01 +0200 Received: from ip68-230-67-248.ph.ph.cox.net ([68.230.67.248]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 05 May 2007 06:19:01 +0200 Received: from 1i5t5.duncan by ip68-230-67-248.ph.ph.cox.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 05 May 2007 06:19:01 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: [news-item] Paludis 0.24 Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 04:18:55 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <200705042249.48267.peper@gentoo.org> <463BA9BF.4080708@digital-trauma.de> <200705042356.10789.peper@gentoo.org> <463BAFF8.80100@gentoo.org> <20070504222225.GA11120@anubis.perspektivbredband.net> <463BB5F3.7060202@gentoo.org> <20070505001746.5c8e2fb6@snowflake> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ip68-230-67-248.ph.ph.cox.net User-Agent: Pan/0.128 (SR/CL: Leitmotiv: Toynbee Idea) Sender: news X-Archives-Salt: 1dfab842-6e1f-4a3f-8b57-caa0b783433d X-Archives-Hash: d9d4821b55d77629f30f1db5be134ca6 Ciaran McCreesh posted 20070505001746.5c8e2fb6@snowflake, excerpted below, on Sat, 05 May 2007 00:17:46 +0100: > On Fri, 04 May 2007 17:38:43 -0500 > Steev Klimaszewski wrote: >> Right.... which... seems to me something I would want to know *BEFORE* >> I upgraded... > > No no, if you find out before you upgrade you preemptively change your > config files and the old version breaks. If you find out after you > upgrade you know why you're getting a load of warnings about '*' being > deprecated. I believe that last word, deprecated, is what many are missing. If the files are upgraded to the new format previous to merging the new version, things will break. If the new version is installed and the files remain in the old format, it will simply spit warnings but it'll still work. Thus, switching the format must be done after the upgrade, not before, and the news message suggesting it should be shown after the upgrade, not before, to prevent breakage while explaining warnings people will get until they update to current format. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list