From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1FQiq3-0003W7-CB for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 04 Apr 2006 10:32:43 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.6/8.13.5) with SMTP id k34AVpOi021718; Tue, 4 Apr 2006 10:31:51 GMT Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [134.68.220.30]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.6/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k34ASa7m016271 for ; Tue, 4 Apr 2006 10:28:36 GMT Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by smtp.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1FQim4-0005Bb-7Z for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Tue, 04 Apr 2006 10:28:36 +0000 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1FQilw-00038S-8N for gentoo-dev@gentoo.org; Tue, 04 Apr 2006 12:28:28 +0200 Received: from ip68-230-97-182.ph.ph.cox.net ([68.230.97.182]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 04 Apr 2006 12:28:28 +0200 Received: from 1i5t5.duncan by ip68-230-97-182.ph.ph.cox.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 04 Apr 2006 12:28:28 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: When will KDE 3.5 be marked as stable? Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2006 03:28:14 -0700 Organization: Organization? Me? Message-ID: References: <200604040114.01418@enterprise.flameeyes.is-a-geek.org> <20060404060915.GB6101@sympatico.ca> <200604040843.09697@enterprise.flameeyes.is-a-geek.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ip68-230-97-182.ph.ph.cox.net User-Agent: Pan/0.14.2.91 (As She Crawled Across the Table) Sender: news Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by robin.gentoo.org id k34AVpQP021718 X-Archives-Salt: 992a0ac9-26f9-4687-aafa-f5195abc7803 X-Archives-Hash: 2ea7baeb50cc56c6bb711921564d624d Diego 'Flameeyes' Petten=F2 posted <200604040843.09697@enterprise.flameeyes.is-a-geek.org>, excerpted below,= =20 on Tue, 04 Apr 2006 08:42:56 +0200: > On Tuesday 04 April 2006 08:09, Philip Webb wrote: >> KDE is now modular: is it possible to upgrade some modules, but not >> others ? Kdelibs would need to be stable, but must everything wait for >> stragglers ? If I have Kdelibs 3.5.2 , can I still run eg Konsole 3.5.= 1 >> ? > As modular as it can be, it has to go stable in one piece. PW: Note that while Flameeyes' is correct from a dev perspective (it's modular but there's a large degree of interdependence, so not stabilizing it as a unit is asking for trouble), they /do/ "skip" certain packages in the upgrades (within slot, 3.4 is a different slot than 3.5, but 3.5.0 thru 3.5.2, currently, are all the same 3.5 slot) -- those where there's no new code and where the dependencies are stable enough that a recompile against the new ones isn't required. In fact, that was given as one of th= e big reasons for going modular in the first place. >>From a Genntoo user perspective, again within the same slot, once you've upgraded arts (if you use it) and kdelibs, you can in general continue to use a mix of old and new while you upgrade additional packages one at a time. I do this routinely for a few hours during the upgrade as the rest of the new KDE is still merging. Sometimes one or another binar= y or particular function will stop working temporarily until it and all the pieces it depends on are upgraded as well, but most stuff continues to work well enough to continue to use. Just don't go filing bugs on anythin= g that breaks until the whole set is updated. --=20 Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman in http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2004/12/22/rms_interview.html --=20 gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list