From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: When will KDE 3.5 be marked as stable?
Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 22:51:46 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <pan.2006.04.04.05.51.45.875116@cox.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: e36b84ee0604031625u2f0580bey7550f34109027db8@mail.gmail.com
m h posted <e36b84ee0604031625u2f0580bey7550f34109027db8@mail.gmail.com>,
excerpted below, on Mon, 03 Apr 2006 15:25:56 -0800:
> Diego -
>
> Thanks for the response.
>
> Steve-
>
> Sorry to abuse the list. Feel free to point me to the correct place to
> post this. I noticed it in the forums a few times without any answer.
Diego got to the direct answer before I did, but maybe I can help here. =8^)
The Gentoo-desktop list is lower volume and generally where I ask
(developer level) questions about anything so related, KDE, GNOME, burning
CD/DVDs, sometimes sound issues, etc. Again, that's a developer list not
a general user list, but it's low enough volume and generally friendly
enough to get you the answers you need if it's something (like this) a dev
would need to answer. (Of course, there are documents that point out a
general policy that's being followed, which you could read and check on
the release dates, but that doesn't specifically answer the question about
KDE 3.5, which is pretty reasonable IMO.)
For general user questions, the /very/ high volume gentoo-user list is
normally the right place. That and the forums, which you (now) mention
you tried.
BTW, about the "(now) mention" part... A good general reference is
Eric S. Raymond's essay "How to Ask Questions the Smart Way". One of the
things it mentions is to briefly mention what you've already tried, in
this case, the forums. This does a couple things. First, it avoids
needless duplication with folks telling you about stuff you already
tried. Second and as important, keep in mind that devs are busy folks,
often as with Gentoo volunteers, and to be effective, they must ruthlessly
sort out stuff that's not efficient for them to do. Telling them what
you've already tried indicates that you are motivated enough to try
looking on your own first, and that it's therefore not simply a waste of
time to help you, because you are willing to help yourself. Thus, the
"not a flame" thing was good, but throwing in the "I tried the forums
already and other folks are asking there too, without a good answer" part,
into your first mail, would have been better.
http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Essays/smart-questions.html
(One of the other things it says is that if someone spends the time
answering, consider it a compliment, as they consider you worth the time
/to/ answer -- you got past their ruthless efficiency filter. So... you
can read back thru the answers and see who considered you worthy of a real
answer and who didn't, and the above might help explain why. =8^)
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2006-04-03 23:05 [gentoo-dev] When will KDE 3.5 be marked as stable? m h
2006-04-03 23:11 ` Stephen P. Becker
2006-04-03 23:44 ` Aron Griffis
2006-04-04 2:16 ` Kari Hazzard
2006-04-04 2:28 ` Stephen P. Becker
2006-04-04 2:50 ` lnxg33k
2006-04-04 3:23 ` Jason S
2006-04-04 3:37 ` Kari Hazzard
2006-04-04 15:12 ` Stephen P. Becker
2006-04-04 16:11 ` Kari Hazzard
2006-04-04 16:37 ` Stephen P. Becker
2006-04-04 17:04 ` m h
2006-04-04 17:42 ` Phil Richards
2006-04-04 21:05 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-04-04 21:09 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-04-04 20:55 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-04-04 16:42 ` Simon Stelling
2006-04-04 20:52 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-04-04 2:37 ` Grant Goodyear
2006-04-04 12:05 ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-04-04 9:21 ` Michael Cummings
2006-04-04 9:42 ` Jan Kundrát
2006-04-04 10:38 ` Michael Cummings
2006-04-03 23:13 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-04-03 23:25 ` m h
2006-04-04 5:51 ` Duncan [this message]
2006-04-04 6:16 ` [gentoo-dev] " Donnie Berkholz
2006-04-04 10:10 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-04-04 6:09 ` [gentoo-dev] " Philip Webb
2006-04-04 6:42 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-04-04 10:28 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-04-04 12:03 ` [gentoo-dev] " Philip Webb
2006-04-04 9:12 ` Chris Bainbridge
2006-04-04 9:51 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-04-04 10:14 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-04-04 10:38 ` Caleb Tennis
2006-04-04 11:17 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-04-04 12:18 ` [gentoo-dev] " Philip Webb
2006-05-04 11:48 ` [gentoo-dev] " Bart Braem
2006-05-04 12:18 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-04 12:30 ` Jeff Rollin
2006-05-05 7:14 ` Philip Webb
2006-05-05 7:35 ` Jakub Moc
2006-05-05 7:56 ` Philip Webb
2006-05-05 8:11 ` Jakub Moc
2006-05-05 9:03 ` Michael Kirkland
2006-05-05 8:16 ` Chris Bainbridge
2006-05-05 20:09 ` Jeff Smelser
2006-05-06 9:03 ` Richard Fish
2006-05-04 12:21 ` Jeff Rollin
2006-05-04 13:45 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-04 14:28 ` Jeff Rollin
2006-05-04 23:29 ` Michael Kirkland
2006-05-05 5:28 ` Jeff Rollin
2006-05-05 10:30 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-05-05 6:32 ` [gentoo-dev] " Kevin F. Quinn (Gentoo)
2006-05-05 11:20 ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-05-05 13:23 ` Kevin F. Quinn (Gentoo)
2006-05-05 14:38 ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-05-05 18:37 ` Kevin F. Quinn (Gentoo)
2006-05-05 19:10 ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-05-05 19:08 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-05 7:20 ` [gentoo-dev] " Bart Braem
2006-05-05 8:03 ` Harald van Dijk
2006-05-05 8:33 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-05-05 8:43 ` [gentoo-dev] " Bart Braem
2006-05-05 11:28 ` Duncan
2006-05-05 8:57 ` [gentoo-dev] " Patrick Lauer
2006-05-05 9:44 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-06 6:48 ` Philip Webb
2006-05-06 11:41 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-06 12:48 ` Philip Webb
2006-05-06 13:01 ` Jakub Moc
2006-05-06 13:18 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-05-05 10:50 ` [gentoo-dev] " Caleb Tennis
2006-05-05 11:27 ` [gentoo-dev] " Bart Braem
2006-05-05 11:19 ` [gentoo-dev] " Carsten Lohrke
2006-05-05 11:50 ` [gentoo-dev] " Bart Braem
2006-05-06 9:28 ` [gentoo-dev] " Richard Fish
2006-05-05 7:37 ` [gentoo-dev] " Philip Webb
2006-05-05 11:00 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-05-05 21:52 ` [gentoo-dev] " Jan Kundrát
2006-05-05 12:03 ` Marius Mauch
2006-05-04 13:05 ` Duncan
2006-05-04 13:47 ` Guillaume Pujol
2006-05-06 8:56 ` Richard Fish
2006-04-04 11:50 ` [gentoo-dev] " Carsten Lohrke
2006-04-08 13:41 ` Wernfried Haas
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