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From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-dev]  Re: Stupid USE defaults that need cleaning
Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 12:15:42 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <pan.2005.12.26.19.15.42.5269@cox.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 55309248.20051226185355@gentoo.org

Jakub Moc posted <55309248.20051226185355@gentoo.org>, excerpted below, 
on Mon, 26 Dec 2005 18:53:55 +0100:

> 
> 26.12.2005, 18:07:45, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> 
>> On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 17:57:17 +0100 Jakub Moc <jakub@gentoo.org> wrote:
>> | alsa - this does not make most sense definitely, this horrible thing
>> | needs to die.
> 
>> Why? On x86, alsa is the least broken sound system, and on x86, the
>> target for the default profiles is desktops, and most desktops have
>> soundcards.
> 
> Uh eh... I meant *arts*, no clue how I wrote alsa.

USE=arts is a great default, again, by the definition already given "for
packages that can optionally support arts, should it be enabled by default
or not".  Most of the arts-optional packages will be KDE.  KDE by default
should be arts-aware, at least in KDE 3.x.  4.x will be a different
matter, but with 3.x, while KDE /can/ run without arts, it's /designed/ to
run /with/ arts, so that's the entirely logical default.

Of course, there are packages such as xmms that don't have an direct
relationship to KDE save that they optionally support arts.  Great!  For
such packages there's this user-configurable file in /etc/portage called
package.use.  For those that don't want arts at all, simply set -arts in
make.conf and be done with it.  Meanwhile, USE=arts remains an entirely
logical default.

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  reply	other threads:[~2005-12-26 19:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-12-26  5:09 [gentoo-dev] Stupid USE defaults that need cleaning Doug Goldstein
2005-12-26  6:09 ` Mike Frysinger
2005-12-26  6:22   ` Dale
2005-12-26 16:27     ` Jan Kundrát
2005-12-26  7:24   ` Doug Goldstein
2005-12-26  7:33     ` Mike Frysinger
2005-12-26 12:53       ` Bastiaan Visser
2005-12-26 13:12         ` Petteri Räty
2005-12-26 16:32           ` Jan Kundrát
2005-12-26 16:44             ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2005-12-26 18:28           ` Andrew Muraco
2005-12-26 12:45     ` Danny van Dyk
2005-12-26 11:35 ` Luca Barbato
2005-12-26 15:35 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-12-26 16:57   ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-12-26 17:07     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-12-26 17:53       ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-12-26 19:15         ` Duncan [this message]
2005-12-26 19:03       ` Carsten Lohrke
2005-12-26 20:06         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-12-26 18:36     ` Re[2]: " Joe McCann
2005-12-26 19:00       ` Carsten Lohrke
2005-12-26 19:24       ` Re[4]: " Jakub Moc
2005-12-26 20:48         ` Joe McCann
2005-12-26 21:02           ` Stephen P. Becker
2005-12-26 21:21         ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2005-12-26 21:47           ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-12-26 22:19       ` Lares Moreau
2005-12-26 22:28         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-12-26 22:31         ` Andrew Muraco
2005-12-27  1:29         ` Dale
2005-12-27  4:28         ` Chandler Carruth
2005-12-27  4:43           ` Brian Harring
2005-12-27  5:10             ` Chandler Carruth
2005-12-27  5:30               ` Brian Harring
2005-12-28 17:05     ` Olivier Fisette
2005-12-30 18:07       ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-12-26 17:08 ` Simon Stelling
2005-12-26 18:34   ` Doug Goldstein

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