From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Eet5w-0006tn-QU for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 11:47:25 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id jANBki20015908; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 11:46:44 GMT Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [134.68.220.30]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id jANBiD8d028619 for ; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 11:44:14 GMT Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by smtp.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Eet2r-00053c-8Z for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 11:44:13 +0000 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Eet1B-00075h-I3 for gentoo-dev@gentoo.org; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 12:42:29 +0100 Received: from ip68-230-97-182.ph.ph.cox.net ([68.230.97.182]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 12:42:29 +0100 Received: from 1i5t5.duncan by ip68-230-97-182.ph.ph.cox.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 12:42:29 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: Decision to remove stage1/2 from installation documentation Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 04:41:05 -0700 Organization: Sometimes Message-ID: References: <20051122144745.GR12982@mail.lieber.org> <20051122143743.GV5305@sole.infis.univ.trieste.it> <1132672444.27288.18.camel@cgianelloni.nuvox.net> <438338AE.1060501@gentoo.org> <1132674486.27288.24.camel@cgianelloni.nuvox.net> <46059ce10511222115r650f7c2bm4f6902f2851b47e2@mail.gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ip68-230-97-182.ph.ph.cox.net User-Agent: Pan/0.14.2.91 (As She Crawled Across the Table) Sender: news X-Archives-Salt: e22b0f05-b0f1-4f74-ac28-08a430f54f34 X-Archives-Hash: 4155c8c6880efa464e57668f26720731 R Hill posted , excerpted below, on Wed, 23 Nov 2005 00:16:38 -0600: > this is why things need to be made clear > before the fact, not after they happen, and need to be discussed with both > devs and users to make sure everyone's on the same page, instead of > spending all day violently misunderstanding each other. .. All day violently missunderstanding each other... LOL, but unfortunately what has seemed to be the case, both with this, the stage-1 thing, and with the mail subdomain issue regarding GLEP 41, the arch-tester thing. Certainly lessons for the future. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman in http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2004/12/22/rms_interview.html -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list