From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Eerj1-0000qI-QQ for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 10:19:40 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id jANAIv7E002108; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 10:18:57 GMT Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [134.68.220.30]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id jANAH7lr014753 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 10:17:08 GMT Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by smtp.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EergZ-0000DG-EK for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 10:17:07 +0000 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1EereS-0005r0-MA for gentoo-dev@gentoo.org; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 11:14:59 +0100 Received: from ip68-230-97-182.ph.ph.cox.net ([68.230.97.182]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for <gentoo-dev@gentoo.org>; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 11:14:56 +0100 Received: from 1i5t5.duncan by ip68-230-97-182.ph.ph.cox.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for <gentoo-dev@gentoo.org>; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 11:14:56 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: new developer Joshua Nichols (nichoj) Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 03:14:25 -0700 Organization: Sometimes Message-ID: <pan.2005.11.23.10.14.13.609131@cox.net> References: <4382CB2A.9000109@gentoo.org> <43839B31.2050005@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-dev+help@gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+unsubscribe@gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+subscribe@gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-dev.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ip68-230-97-182.ph.ph.cox.net User-Agent: Pan/0.14.2.91 (As She Crawled Across the Table) Sender: news <news@sea.gmane.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by robin.gentoo.org id jANAIv8r002108 X-Archives-Salt: 07ccad61-d492-471a-b27a-18718cf9a30f X-Archives-Hash: 164ccd06a185f28a808191d1cf1a5590 Petteri R=E4ty posted <43839B31.2050005@gentoo.org>, excerpted below, on Wed, 23 Nov 2005 00:26:57 +0200: > Jochen Maes wrote: >> Hello all, >>=20 >>=20 >=20 >> I'd appreciate a nice welcome and a descent slap on the butt when you >> pass him... >>=20 >> Joshua, welcome! >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 > http://tinyurl.com/n9qb > I hope to see this list near hundred soon! OK, this is a gripe of mine, so... 1) There's only the tinyurl, no indication at all of where it actually points, or what the "list" is! Surely, a bit of a description might be useful. Something like "(buglist of <whatever>)". (I'm composing this having gone to the URL but still have no idea of what <whatever> is, because there's no title and the URL is too long to easily figure out what's being searched on.) 2) The URL actually pointed to is: http://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=3D&short_desc_type=3Dallw= ordssubstr&short_desc=3D&long_desc_type=3Dsubstring&long_desc=3D&bug_file= _loc_type=3Dallwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=3D&keywords_type=3Dallwords&keywo= rds=3D&bug_status=3DNEW&bug_status=3DASSIGNED&bug_status=3DREOPENED&email= assigned_to1=3D1&emailtype1=3Dexact&email1=3Djava%40gentoo.org&emailassig= ned_to2=3D1&emailreporter2=3D1&emailqa_contact2=3D1&emailcc2=3D1&emailtyp= e2=3Dsubstring&email2=3D&bugidtype=3Dinclude&bug_id=3D&votes=3D&changedin= =3D&chfieldfrom=3D&chfieldto=3DNow&chfieldvalue=3D&cmdtype=3Ddoit&order=3D= Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&field0-0-0=3Dnoop&type0-0-0=3Dnoop&value0-0-= 0=3D Obviously that's waaayyyy... too long to be of much use, so a tinyurl is appreciated. However, a lot of those query substrings are empty or the default or otherwise unneeded. Trimming the cruft should result in a far shorter URL that actually conveys a bit of information. With a URL o= f this lenth, the easiest way to do that is to paste the URL into an editor and trim from there. Trim a bit, then try the link to see if it still works, then trim some more... Here's what I came up with after a bit of trial and error. Note that the original URL poster, knowing what he's after and thus knowing which field= s are likely to be relevant, could have done the same with rather less trouble. http://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=3DNEW&bug_status=3DASSIGNED= &bug_status=3DREOPENED&emailassigned_to1=3D1&emailtype1=3Dexact&email1=3D= java%40gentoo.org Still not short, so a tinyurl is still useful, but /far/ shorter than the above, and it's actually possible to see what this one is looking for: a) bugstatus=3DNEW/ASSIGNED/REOPENED and=20 b) emailassigned_to=3Djava@gentoo.org (exact match). OK, how much easier would it have been to just post this: List of open bugs assigned to java@: http://tinyurl.com/<whatever> Note also that some don't like clicking on blind URLs, even with descriptions. Thus, optionally: List of open bugs assigned to java@: http://tinyurl.com/<whatever> (points to) http://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=3DNEW&bug_status=3DASSIGNED= &bug_status=3DREOPENED&emailassigned_to1=3D1&emailtype1=3Dexact&email1=3D= java%40gentoo.org That way, both those who don't want to trust a blind link, and those that are reading the list on long-url munging clients, have a link to click.=20 Further, even if the long URL ends up munged, it's possible to see what i= t is, and to reassemble it, if desired. --=20 Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman in http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2004/12/22/rms_interview.html --=20 gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list