From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1EZFLe-0007PC-Sy for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 07 Nov 2005 22:20:19 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id jA7MIYOn030616; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 22:18:34 GMT Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [134.68.220.30]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id jA7MEdVp012608 for ; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 22:14:39 GMT Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by smtp.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EZFGB-0006kN-8d for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Mon, 07 Nov 2005 22:14:39 +0000 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1EZFE3-0004He-QT for gentoo-dev@gentoo.org; Mon, 07 Nov 2005 23:12:27 +0100 Received: from ip68-230-97-182.ph.ph.cox.net ([68.230.97.182]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 07 Nov 2005 23:12:27 +0100 Received: from 1i5t5.duncan by ip68-230-97-182.ph.ph.cox.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 07 Nov 2005 23:12:27 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: GLEP 42 "Critical News Reporting" Round Two Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 15:10:08 -0700 Organization: Sometimes Message-ID: References: <20051105005814.0de0d8ff@snowdrop.home> <436C8951.4010008@gentoo.org> <20051105111006.GA14844@kloeri> <436C9798.5020805@gentoo.org> <20051105114729.GB14844@kloeri> <436CAC58.4090809@gentoo.org> <1131309435.8543.16.camel@mogheiden.gnqs.org> <20051106214747.4e6a9cff@snowdrop.home> <1131382994.8546.34.camel@mogheiden.gnqs.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ip68-230-97-182.ph.ph.cox.net User-Agent: Pan/0.14.2.91 (As She Crawled Across the Table) Sender: news X-Archives-Salt: 28b51743-02ae-4b32-bfb7-c0102febdd6b X-Archives-Hash: a9d1593fce625c1d017526c2bdbf0a7d Stuart Herbert posted <1131382994.8546.34.camel@mogheiden.gnqs.org>, excerpted below, on Mon, 07 Nov 2005 17:03:14 +0000: >> The announce list is one. > > By your own admission, you're on the announce list, and but you didn't > know about the Apache changes. Imagine how many other users were in the > same situation. Imagine how many other users never signed up to the > announce list in the first place. I guess I wasn't quite clear, then. Yes, I KNEW about the changes, from several sources. The first source I knew about them from was here, I believe, seeing the earlier discussion. Because of that, it was old news by the time I saw it on announce and I wasn't sure I'd seen it there because I'd lost track of all the locations and threads I'd seen it in by then. I wasn't sure it was on announce, not because I didn't see it there, but because it was old news by then. Actually, from my perspective, that's a /good/ thing, because one of the reasons I'm subscribed here is to get as early a heads-up on things as possible. The news SHOULD go to announce and it did (tho I hadn't been sure of it in that case), but by definition, before it gets announced, it will need discussed, and likely as not, at least mention of that discussion will be seen here, well ahead of it actually happening or appearing on announce or on the news thing. Then seeing it on announce would jog my memory, if necessary, and remind me of the decision made, as sometimes the discussion here remains up in the air and I don't know the decision until later. (That's normal, not a bad thing.) Then seeing it in emerge would be another warning (for me), just in case I'd slept thru things, and to jog my memory once more. For me, and for those that care, that's all it should be, another warning, thus I'd call it fairly low priority. However, it's still good to have, and for those that don't care enough to go looking elsewhere, it might be the first warning they get. I personally wouldn't want to operate that way, nor could I imagine doing so, but I realize the point made that obviously, others are missing all the warning signs and seeing it there might be the last warning that does some good. That's a GOOD thing! It's just not personally good enough that I'd prioritize it real heavily, but it's still a good thing to have, so I won't argue with OTHERS prioritizing it. =8^) -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman in http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2004/12/22/rms_interview.html -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list