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From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-dev]  Re: Re: GLEP 42 (Was: Getting Important Updates To Users)
Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 02:58:51 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <pan.2005.11.05.09.58.50.942188@cox.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 200511051408.09014.jstubbs@gentoo.org

Jason Stubbs posted <200511051408.09014.jstubbs@gentoo.org>, excerpted
below,  on Sat, 05 Nov 2005 14:08:08 +0900:

> On Saturday 05 November 2005 03:53, Alec Joseph Warner wrote:
>> As far as including news in the tree goes, news is repository bound
>> information.  Each repository may in fact have relevant news, and in
>> preparation for multiple repositories this is how the news should be
>> handled.  It goes with the rest of the repo-specific information.  That
>> is why it should be in the tree.
> 
> I seem to be repeating myself... What's an example of repository-specific 
> non-package-specific news? Why does `emerge --changelog` not suffice for 
> package-specific news?

I'd say it's a matter of degree, or we'd not be having the discussion.

Ideally, there's a changelog entry for /every/ commit.  The specified
purpose of "news" is to convey out-of-the-ordinary changes, where the
Gentoo user (aka Gentoo system sysadmin) needs to be aware of something
unusual, and likely take extraordinary steps to manage the upgrade.
Certainly, "stable on X arch" a bunch of times as a bunch of changelog
entries do not qualify as "out-of-the-ordinary", yet that's the sort of
documentation of changes one expects to fine in a changelog, tho they
would only be "noise" in the proposed "news" system, and shouldn't
generate news messages at all.

Perhaps this is something that needs further clarification in the GLEP?

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-11-05 10:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-10-31 23:36 [gentoo-dev] GLEP 42 (Was: Getting Important Updates To Users) Chris White
2005-10-31 23:41 ` [gentoo-dev] " Dan Meltzer
2005-10-31 23:52   ` Dan Meltzer
2005-11-01  7:56     ` Wernfried Haas
2005-11-01 14:32       ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-01 19:32       ` Stuart Herbert
2005-11-01 19:51         ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-03 19:40           ` Stuart Herbert
2005-11-04  1:10             ` Nathan L. Adams
2005-11-04  8:22               ` Sami Näätänen
2005-11-04 14:26               ` Xavier Neys
2005-11-04 16:44                 ` Jason Stubbs
2005-11-04 18:53                   ` Alec Joseph Warner
2005-11-05  5:08                     ` Jason Stubbs
2005-11-05  5:34                       ` Alec Warner
2005-11-07 10:11                         ` Paul de Vrieze
2005-11-07 12:37                           ` Jason Stubbs
2005-11-07 16:06                             ` Grant Goodyear
2005-11-07 16:44                               ` Jason Stubbs
2005-11-07 16:43                             ` Stuart Herbert
2005-11-05  9:58                       ` Duncan [this message]
2005-11-05 12:54                       ` Michiel de Bruijne
2005-11-06 19:32                       ` R Hill
2005-11-01 19:53         ` Mike Williams
2005-10-31 23:46 ` [gentoo-dev] " Brian Harring
2005-11-01 10:51   ` Jason Stubbs
2005-11-01  0:42 ` Ciaran McCreesh

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