From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from [140.105.134.102] (helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DnQkL-00078J-Lb for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 00:48:10 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with SMTP id j5T0ktAQ030749; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 00:46:55 GMT Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [134.68.220.30]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j5T0jGTP023452 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 00:45:17 GMT Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by smtp.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DnQi8-0007XY-40 for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 00:45:52 +0000 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1DnQb1-00020h-Hc for gentoo-dev@gentoo.org; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 02:38:31 +0200 Received: from ip68-230-66-193.ph.ph.cox.net ([68.230.66.193]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 02:38:31 +0200 Received: from 1i5t5.duncan by ip68-230-66-193.ph.ph.cox.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2005 02:38:31 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP 38: Status of forum moderators in the Gentoo project Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 17:45:26 -0700 Organization: Sometimes Message-ID: References: <789633874@web.de> <20050628090305.GA11530@gentoo.org> <20050628100658.GA13787@gentoo.org> <20050628102818.GA13837@gentoo.org> <42C12B9D.9020004@gentoo.org> <20050628112004.GB7891@cerberus.oppresses.us> <1119995365.24275.34.camel@cocagne.max-t.internal> <1119996191.13756.170.camel@localhost> <42C1CD32.2090605@email.de> <1119998054.26017.4.camel@pursuit> <1120000451.26017.7.camel@pursuit> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ip68-230-66-193.ph.ph.cox.net User-Agent: Pan/0.14.2.91 (As She Crawled Across the Table) Sender: news X-Archives-Salt: 7b743d96-e554-4928-9d8c-e8bc7c7dab80 X-Archives-Hash: 2c369f05212da33f50c567d7adaa2486 Lance Albertson posted <1120000451.26017.7.camel@pursuit>, excerpted below, on Tue, 28 Jun 2005 18:14:11 -0500: > Ok, after talking with a few folks I want to retract my comment about no > shell access. I didn't think about the other groups (docs) that already > have shell access and retain a simliar status as forum mods do in > Gentoo. I'm just getting ansty about all these new people we're bringing > on and the security behind it. Thats my main concern at this point, not > whether your work is more or less than a regular developer. I just > wanted to make that point before I had a flamewar directed at me :) OK, I'm with you on the security thing (being one that would prefer a USE=clientonly flag, remember, tho I understand the reasons behind not doing it), but I DO know there's quite the occasional use for someplace to host scripts, patchlets, and sample config files for reference from forums/news/lists/irc, that I've personally found useful, that others would like to see as well. One particular example is my xorg.conf file, which I seem to get requests for from time to time, when I mention that I have xorg running xinerama on a dual-out Radeon 9200SE. It seems many have trouble getting that to work, and an annotated working config can help tremendously. I've been considering doing it up right and putting it on my web page. Sure, I can put it on my ISP's page, but folks do change ISPs from time to time, and for forum mods that are already staff, having a "staffspace" available to make such things a bit more publicly available, could be /quite/ useful. The form of the URLs such resources get make it quite clear that while hosted on a gentoo server, they are in personal devspace/staffspace on that server, so there should be little chance of confusion with "official" packages, particularly if there's a policy in place (I haven't seen one but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist) to clearly mark any HTML formatted anchor tags with non-obfuscated descriptions and URLs. (The forum software may or may not make obfuscated URLs impossible, I don't know.) -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman in http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2004/12/22/rms_interview.html -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list