From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [134.68.220.30]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j3KAeLcK001911 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:40:21 GMT Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by smtp.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DOCcj-0003U8-Si for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:40:02 +0000 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1DOCYq-0004At-HF for gentoo-dev@gentoo.org; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:36:00 +0200 Received: from ip68-230-66-193.ph.ph.cox.net ([68.230.66.193]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:36:00 +0200 Received: from 1i5t5.duncan by ip68-230-66-193.ph.ph.cox.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:36:00 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: Some new xorg ebuilds Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 03:39:53 -0700 Organization: Sometimes Message-ID: References: <4264BAB1.5050804@gentoo.org> <4264CC34.8010704@gentoo.org> <1113912662.13564.5.camel@sponge.fungus> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ip68-230-66-193.ph.ph.cox.net User-Agent: Pan/0.14.2.91 (As She Crawled Across the Table) Sender: news X-Archives-Salt: e8498380-8bd9-4d53-85c9-5758f7200ffb X-Archives-Hash: 1c0df9db1568cab275b6074bcdc70c73 Henrik Brix Andersen posted <1113912662.13564.5.camel@sponge.fungus>, excerpted below, on Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:11:02 +0200: > On Tue, 2005-04-19 at 11:15 +0200, Sebastian Bergmann wrote: >> Is there a list of "major" changes for X.Org 6.9.0 (or whatever >> release 6.8.99.* is leading to) somewhere? How far do you estimate >> this release to be away? > > http://xorg.freedesktop.org/wiki/#head-7f9963a87b2eb461fc821f70af0cecbb33788ba8 Very useful information, particularly the modularization proposal as linked from there. After reading The Modularization Proposal, and noting from the front page linked above that it has apparently been adopted, I've still some questions, mostly re Gentoo's implementation thereof. The big one, how are we handling the modularization. It has been obvious for some time from Donnie's comments that he's taking Gentoo's xorg toward modularized, but that leaves open the question of how exactly it's going to be done. Is the modularization going to be handled much as the KDE splits were handled? That is, as with KDE having both the multilithic (multi- due to still having multiple category packages) and split ebuilds available for 3.4, will xorg 6.9 (current imake monolithic build system, according to the link above) and 7.0 (modularized autotools based build) exist at the same time, with xorg-7.0 being effectively a meta-ebuild of the multiple individual packages, similar to kdebase-meta, or will we switch to modularized immediately (or...)? Once we go 7.0/modularized, what will it look like in terms of the versioning of the individual components? As with KDE, are they going to say in sync with the main upstream release, with individual new package versions getting -rN revision numbers, or are we going to have individual package versions with no relation to the xorg release, save for the xorg-7.x meta-ebuild having deps on >= whatever the highest component ebuild version for that particular package was at that point? More to the immediate point, are the 6.8.99 snapshots going to be modularized more or less as they become available upstream (if it's not already happening, I haven't yet checked), or should we (I) expect a 6.99 modularized meta-package set of snapshots to become available at some point? Finally, are all the Gentoo local system location changes now (as of 6.8.2-r1 or r2?) complete, or are there still more coming? IOW, are we testers now testing /only/ new xorg code, or are we still testing local system location changes as well? ... Also, one more question, local xorg configuration related. I'm currently running dual VGA screen xinerama on a single dual-output Radeon AGP card. I'd /love/ to be able to run dual cards, an AGP and a PCI, letting me run up to four monitors, but have tried several different hardware arrangements and save for the success I had some time ago with a GForce2 and NVidia's proprietary drivers (totalling three monitors on two cards), I've not gotten it working. Is there an official list of dual card supporting xorg drivers, anywhere, and/or perhaps an xorg-user list dealing with such things? I did notice the note about r128 now supporting dual-card layout in the changes since 6.8.2 doc linked from above, which again reminded me that I'd like to get it working. 2 x 2048x1536, 21" monitors, stacked for 2048x3072, is nice, but a 2x2 layout for 4096x3072 total display area would DEFINITELY be nicer! =8^) -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman in http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2004/12/22/rms_interview.html -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list