From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 29168 invoked from network); 13 Sep 2004 15:37:30 +0000 Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (156.56.111.197) by lists.gentoo.org with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 13 Sep 2004 15:37:30 +0000 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([156.56.111.196] helo=parrot.gentoo.org) by smtp.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1C6stV-0007bY-La for arch-gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 15:37:29 +0000 Received: (qmail 3872 invoked by uid 89); 13 Sep 2004 15:37:29 +0000 Mailing-List: contact gentoo-dev-help@gentoo.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Received: (qmail 26494 invoked from network); 13 Sep 2004 15:37:28 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 08:37:23 -0700 Organization: Sometimes Message-ID: References: <20040824141120.GA9931@gentoo.org> <20040901073242.GA8228@gentoo.org> <200409011331.24838.pauldv@gentoo.org> <20040909122534.GA8423@gentoo.org> <20040911113639.GB9039@gentoo.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1250 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ip68-230-66-58.ph.ph.cox.net User-Agent: Pan/0.14.2.91 (As She Crawled Across the Table) Sender: news Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Re: Proposal: Social Contract change & What is "Gentoo" ? X-Archives-Salt: c0f2f913-3dc4-487f-ad86-b8ca3570ba80 X-Archives-Hash: 3779734178b97275c2b4fb956b54e39a Sven Vermeulen posted <20040911113639.GB9039@gentoo.org>, excerpted below, on Sat, 11 Sep 2004 13:36:39 +0200: > On Fri, Sep 10, 2004 at 10:35:14AM -0700, Duncan wrote: >> I did notice the contrasted wording between the two clauses, >> >> * free knowledge... contributed by /various/ /developers/.. >> >> * free software... developed by /various/ /Gentoo/ /developers/.. >> >> Was the omission of the word /Gentoo/ in the first case intentional? > > It was, but it looks like it's better if I remove "Gentoo" from both > clauses. Concerning "Gentoo", we shouldn't make any difference between > Gentoo and non-Gentoo developers. > > Updated the proposal. Cool! =:^) Here's the link again, so I don't have to go find it in the upline : http://dev.gentoo.org/~swift/contract.html OK with that, but now this looks strange: Gentoo is the collection of: * [...] * free software developed by various developers and contributed to the Gentoo project "free software /developed/ by various /developers/"? Developed/developers is just repetitive enough to be grating to my thought process. /Definitely/ nitpicking, but what about this for that bullet item? Just leave out the "by various developers and", leaving: * free software contributed to the Gentoo project or maybe: * free software /as/ contributed to the Gentoo project IMO, if we are going to remove the former distinction, the whole "developed" phrase becomes superfluous, and omitting it doesn't change the meaning. Or.. that looks /too/ simple. Maybe I'm missing something! OK, getting back to the purpose of the two-fold definition anyway, the distinction between software and metadata, keeping in mind the fact that while most of "Gentoo" is metadata on other people's creations, Gentoo does have a few software projects of its own, how about: * free software as /created/ /for/ the Gentoo project or coming back somewhat toward your current wording: * free software /created/ /by/ various developers /for/ the Gentoo project. ... or s/created/contributed/ and s/for/to/ * free software contributed by various developers to the Gentoo project. Pardon my thinking in print.. In any case, the existing wording works, even if I think it's a bit grating to my thought process , so the suggestions above are just that, minor suggestions, make use of them or not, as desired. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list