From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 13255 invoked from network); 30 Aug 2004 08:51:27 +0000 Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (156.56.111.197) by lists.gentoo.org with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 30 Aug 2004 08:51:27 +0000 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([156.56.111.196] helo=parrot.gentoo.org) by smtp.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1C1hst-0005QB-Db for arch-gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Mon, 30 Aug 2004 08:51:27 +0000 Received: (qmail 9118 invoked by uid 89); 30 Aug 2004 08:51:26 +0000 Mailing-List: contact gentoo-dev-help@gentoo.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Received: (qmail 18437 invoked from network); 30 Aug 2004 08:51:26 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 01:51:20 -0700 Organization: Sometimes Message-ID: References: <200408261756.56105.carlo@gentoo.org> <20040829214235.5115ef57.spider@gentoo.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1250 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ip68-230-66-58.ph.ph.cox.net User-Agent: Pan/0.14.2.91 (As She Crawled Across the Table) Sender: news Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: new global use flag and a new category X-Archives-Salt: 25a288f4-72fa-4b3e-81df-5db67a3c5368 X-Archives-Hash: e864c3da1612cef599502843dc06fcd0 Spider posted <20040829214235.5115ef57.spider@gentoo.org>, excerpted below, on Sun, 29 Aug 2004 21:42:35 +0200: > begin quote > On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 17:56:56 +0200 > Carsten Lohrke wrote: > >> The kde herd wants to give everyone the possibility to configure with >> --enable-final via the "final" use flag. Additionally I thought about a >> kde-misc category, which would include a bunch of kde related packages, >> which are now mainly placed in app-misc, x11-misc, some in other >> categories and a few are still in bugs.g.o. > >> Any objections? >> >> > I'd object to the use of the word "final" for this, since its ambigous and > hard to comprehend its meaning. I'd suggest finding a better word to > describe the flag and its function. The trouble is that's the upstream choice. From kdebase 3.3.0's ./configure --help: --enable-final build size optimized apps (experimental [...]) Isn't one of the Gentoo policies to let upstream policy guide where possible in such instances? Anyone that has worked on KDE sources should instantly grok what such a use flag is about. If Gentoo calls it something else, it will IMO make things /less/ clear. Well, I guess the /one/ simpler possibility would be to call the flag "enable-final", instead of simply "final", making it even clearer, but I'd expect that wouldn't address your concern. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list