From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 2918 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2004 11:05:57 +0000 Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (156.56.111.197) by lists.gentoo.org with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 30 Jul 2004 11:05:57 +0000 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([156.56.111.196] helo=parrot.gentoo.org) by smtp.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BqVD1-0006Cb-FL for arch-gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Fri, 30 Jul 2004 11:05:55 +0000 Received: (qmail 13805 invoked by uid 89); 30 Jul 2004 11:05:54 +0000 Mailing-List: contact gentoo-dev-help@gentoo.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Received: (qmail 8892 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2004 11:05:54 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 04:05:49 -0700 Organization: Sometimes Message-ID: References: <200407271254.50020.absinthe@gentoo.org> <4108F79B.20903@gentoo.org> <200407291350.58595.absinthe@gentoo.org> <20040730034129.69c54140@snowdrop.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1250 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ip68-230-66-58.ph.ph.cox.net User-Agent: Pan/0.14.2.91 (As She Crawled Across the Table) Sender: news Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Bug voting X-Archives-Salt: 8dd50c33-dde0-4b68-81d4-44ccd5668635 X-Archives-Hash: 2028751f7abf8975b782f3729e1b30da Ciaran McCreesh posted <20040730034129.69c54140@snowdrop.home>, excerpted below, on Fri, 30 Jul 2004 03:41:29 +0100: > On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 13:50:58 -0400 Dylan Carlson > wrote: > | On Thursday 29 July 2004 11:14 am, Duncan wrote: > | > Anyway, Gentoo does great documentation, and with the bug entry > | > wizard, the bugzilla interface is at least semi-usable, but Gentoo > | > bugzilla is still by far the worst aspect of Gentoo Linux I've yet > | > come across. > | > | Well, the query screen is powerful, and as a consequence, it's ugly. > > It is? Actually, I'd say that the query is utterly crippled, since > there's no way to search for all bugs on a particular package. Exactly my point. As I said earlier, component should be the particular package, complete with drop-down list preventing user error on such an important field. The summary should be a summary of the problem and not need the package name or version. What to do with stuff that doesn't fit that mold, then, in the broader categories we presently put in product and component? To some extent, they could be made other choices even if the meta-level isn't quite the same. The other way to handle it would be to create multiple bugzillas. Instead of simply bugs.gentoo.org, there'd be linux.bugs.gentoo.org to handle the mainline/traditional software product bugs, and other subdomains as appropriate for the current top-level "products", therefore admin.bugs.gentoo.org, recruitment.bugs.gentoo.org, etc. One advantage of that would be that the bugzilla front-end and database could be used, without shoehorning everything entered there into being described as a "bug". Thus, altho I'm not sure exactly what is tracked by the other categories, rather than admin.bugs.gentoo.org, it could be called something like admin-tracker.gentoo.org, or admin-db.gentoo.org, or admin-feedback.gentoo.org, or, perhaps feedback.admin.gentoo.org, or tracker.admin.gentoo.org. Of course, bugzilla admins and even experienced developers and users would easily see it as bugzilla, but with the labels massaged a bit, it wouldn't /look/ like a bug database, to someone not accustomed to working with one, and sometimes, what something is called makes a big difference. As I said, however, I'm not sure it'd be practical to attempt to switch horses in mid-stream, as they say. Further, I'll come right out and say I'm rather to much of a newbie to pretend that what I might have to say should have any status at all. If it makes sense and can be used, great. Otherwise, Gentoo's still the best (meta-)distribution option I've come across, and I'll continue to use it, improving my skills and familiarity with my distrib of choice, and aiming toward active participation at whatever level I happen to be at, perhaps even as a developer if that time should come. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list