From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 26478 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2004 19:32:02 +0000 Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (156.56.111.197) by lists.gentoo.org with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 27 Jul 2004 19:32:02 +0000 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([156.56.111.196] helo=parrot.gentoo.org) by smtp.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BpXg9-0001U5-3Z for arch-gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Tue, 27 Jul 2004 19:32:01 +0000 Received: (qmail 24381 invoked by uid 89); 27 Jul 2004 19:32:00 +0000 Mailing-List: contact gentoo-dev-help@gentoo.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Received: (qmail 18270 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2004 19:32:00 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 12:31:56 -0700 Organization: Sometimes Message-ID: References: <200407271254.50020.absinthe@gentoo.org> <20040727180443.4db0015c@snowdrop.home> <200407271327.29517.absinthe@gentoo.org> <20040727173952.GC13649@gonzo.stern.nyu.edu> <41069808.7040405@gossamer-threads.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1250 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ip68-230-66-58.ph.ph.cox.net User-Agent: Pan/0.14.2.91 (As She Crawled Across the Table) Sender: news Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: Bug voting X-Archives-Salt: a2d060ff-91f1-45c6-b35f-8f60038759ac X-Archives-Hash: 6d75e0082fbbb081fa09934fa3f6d0c6 Jason Rhinelander posted <41069808.7040405@gossamer-threads.com>, excerpted below, on Tue, 27 Jul 2004 10:59:36 -0700: > [V]otes would serve as a way for people to say "me too" without > actually cluttering up the bug report by typing "me too" into the > comment box. IMO this is perhaps the important point. The guidelines specifically say /not/ to "me too" a bug, but sometimes it's tempting. If there was a way to vote for it instead, that would solve that problem. In addition, I'm not sure if the vote is rigged this way by default, but one could set it up such that it would notify on the first and second vote, then not again until the fifth, then the tenth, etc. In addition, the vote reports, being automated and entirely predictable content, could easily be filtered by devs not wishing to get them at all. That of course assumes that votes would be set to globally notify at all. Gentoo's going to be rather different, but I came from Mandrake, where each regular cooker tester/user got ten votes to spend as they wished each month on bugzilla. That kept the fakes down quite a bit, because one had to actually participate in the process in ordered to get the ten vote privilege. One could still in theory participate under a bunch of names, but that takes time. A user could spend all ten votes on one thing if they wanted, or spread them out to ten things. I don't know if lower level participants got say two votes, or if actual rpm contributors got say 20, or not, but it could have been done. Now some thinking in print.. As I said, Gentoo's different. Perhaps restrict general users to two votes a month. Preventing ballot stuffing might be problematic, as there's no way to limit registered nyms. However, regular reliable reporters and those contributing fixes might get 10 or 20 votes to use each month, an interesting recognition mechanism short of dev-hood or the like. If stuffing appears to be getting out of hand, but not /entirely/ so, maybe up that to 50 or a hundred votes for the reliable reporters and patch contributors, and while there'd be some obvious vote inflation, equally obviously, they could effectively shout down all but extreme stuffing. One might also consider giving the legit "super-voters" negative votes, costing the same vote points, but subtracting votes, where abuse might be suspected. A super-voter wouldn't have to answer /why/ they voted something up or down, but abuse could be curbed by revoking super-voter status, yanking vote points. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list