From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EEC051396D0 for ; Sun, 13 Aug 2017 02:53:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7C16B1FC048; Sun, 13 Aug 2017 02:53:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from blaine.gmane.org (unknown [195.159.176.226]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 28F5CE0C64 for ; Sun, 13 Aug 2017 02:53:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dgj1T-0001cn-Tb for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Sun, 13 Aug 2017 04:53:03 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: Revisions for USE flag changes Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2017 02:52:58 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <53c9d820-5852-730a-3728-793855c98a1a@gentoo.org> <6912b3d6-4d66-ef99-223c-5892549b571e@gentoo.org> <4bf31717-7dbe-78ec-30e1-78f12f63174e@gentoo.org> <9a4c73d7-34b7-d84e-b9f6-ff5abcc6ec31@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org User-Agent: Pan/0.143 (Quaint little villages here and there; 3dff8b8f3) X-Archives-Salt: 0499113f-d7a1-4619-809f-7e13c2534efc X-Archives-Hash: 0a1153ab663dbbf3466d8fa711482fe5 Michael Orlitzky posted on Sat, 12 Aug 2017 05:58:41 -0400 as excerpted: > On 08/12/2017 04:39 AM, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. wrote: > >> There are use-cases for --changed-use / --newuse other than changed >> IUSE. >> >> I find it useful to easily rebuild affected packages when changing USE >> flags in make.conf. If the flags were removed, would we have a good >> alternative? >> > I simply overlooked the global USE change in make.conf because IMO it's > a nonsense operation ?? How so? Are you arguing that deciding to system-wide switch to/from pulseaudio, systemd, or gstreamer is nonsense? If so, I suspect many gentooers including myself strongly disagree. If not, I'd be interested in what you propose as an alternative to changing the appropriate USE flag systemwide, for what is after all a systemwide change. Just seems to me an extremely surprising and unexpected argument, so I'd like to understand more of the reasoning behind it. I'll very likely learn something, as invariably the answer to questions I find myself compelled to ask due to what appears to me a transparently obvious different answer, reveal an angle I hadn't previously considered, sometimes changing my mind entirely. =:^) -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman