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From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: Question, Portage QOS v3
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 21:12:27 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <pan$d794c$d3b1406d$10caeb07$d9f01a2@cox.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 52d02d58.0b1a700a.1f2e.ffffad96@mx.google.com

Igor posted on Fri, 10 Jan 2014 21:26:47 +0400 as excerpted:

> PS No way PortageQOS will work without uniform agreement. That thing was
> missing from portage design from the start and now with the legacy it's
> either everyone is willing to give it a try or none. I don't want to
> push somebody to something he doesn't see purpose for. There are people
> here who spent lots of time on the project and it might be left as is if
> they don't want any change.

In that case, don't bother, because as the saying goes, attempting to get 
100% agreement on /anything/ in gentoo is "like herding cats".  It simply 
Does. Not. Work.

The closest gentoo gets to 100% agreement is the ones who disagree 
agreeing to yield to the council's decision and shut up for the sake of 
maintaining the peace, believing time will eventually prove their point.  
Or they don't, and they ultimately end up either deciding to go elsewhere 
than gentoo on their own, or get booted by devrel, appeal to council goes 
against them, and undertakers and infra shut down their dev access 
permanently.

In fact, some of those people ended up with exherbo (which AFAIK is a 
play on ex=former, and gentoo's larry the cow mascot) or other projects 
which you would consider entirely competing.  Yet there's a few devs that 
contribute to both projects, and paludis is an accepted portage 
alternative, with PMS accepted (grudgingly by some devs) and declared by 
council to be a defining guideline for in-tree ebuilds.  And both those 
projects are originally/primarily exherbo authored/contributed.

-- 
Duncan - List replies preferred.   No HTML msgs.
"Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
and if you use the program, he is your master."  Richard Stallman



  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-01-10 21:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-01-10 17:26 [gentoo-dev] Question, Portage QOS v3 Igor
2014-01-10 17:40 ` Jeroen Roovers
2014-01-10 21:12 ` Duncan [this message]
2014-01-10 21:39 ` Michał Górny

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