From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ACF113829C for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 02:32:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9AC301423A; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 02:32:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8ED9C14231 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 02:32:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1b7vwy-0005aQ-48 for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Wed, 01 Jun 2016 04:32:04 +0200 Received: from ip98-167-165-199.ph.ph.cox.net ([98.167.165.199]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 01 Jun 2016 04:32:04 +0200 Received: from 1i5t5.duncan by ip98-167-165-199.ph.ph.cox.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 01 Jun 2016 04:32:04 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Masterplan for solving LINGUAS problems Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 02:31:58 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <20160531144926.4937d77a.mgorny@gentoo.org> <20160531200810.7ec6435cb89337238f6a95d8@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ip98-167-165-199.ph.ph.cox.net User-Agent: Pan/0.141 (Tarzan's Death; GIT 5ca29ba90) X-Archives-Salt: 535e1ede-e312-4f65-af7c-0a3e8b8beaca X-Archives-Hash: 4b888c23b71db4f53b1aa81662cbcf09 Andrew Savchenko posted on Tue, 31 May 2016 20:08:10 +0300 as excerpted: > If we are going to do an instant move from LINGUAS to L10N (no graced > period as discussed here on another thread), why to rename variable in > the first place? Because the LINGUAS var is hopelessly tangled up in various build systems... in different ways for different build systems so it's nigh impossible to automatically untangle it. By switching to a var (L10N being the proposed name) that's not actually used in strange ways by the build systems, gentoo's settings won't have unexpected implicit results due to getting tangled up with the build system, only the explicit results managed by the gentoo-level code in the ebuilds/eclasses. That of course being the whole problem LINGUAS turned into such a mess in the first place. In hindsight the mess could have been predicted, but as they say, hindsight is 20/20... -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman