From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB4B01381F3 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2013 07:51:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D4709E09B3; Sun, 23 Jun 2013 07:51:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DA9A7E09AF for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2013 07:51:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21DB833DF46 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2013 07:51:12 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV at gentoo.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.917 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.917 tagged_above=-999 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=-0.634, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.281, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=unavailable Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([IPv6:::ffff:127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [IPv6:::ffff:127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XgYi0ppfmYr0 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2013 07:51:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 35A8933BE50 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2013 07:51:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Uqf4g-0007qn-3H for gentoo-dev@gentoo.org; Sun, 23 Jun 2013 09:51:02 +0200 Received: from ip68-231-22-224.ph.ph.cox.net ([68.231.22.224]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2013 09:51:02 +0200 Received: from 1i5t5.duncan by ip68-231-22-224.ph.ph.cox.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2013 09:51:02 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: Request for testing: plasma-active Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2013 07:50:44 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <51C4E0B7.4070606@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ip68-231-22-224.ph.ph.cox.net User-Agent: Pan/0.140 (Chocolate Salty Balls; GIT 459f52e /usr/src/portage/src/egit-src/pan2) X-Archives-Salt: c69982d2-de0e-4921-b042-a7377aa15fa4 X-Archives-Hash: faf71ceb462139f996c364ea94b31852 Rich Freeman posted on Sat, 22 Jun 2013 07:15:45 -0400 as excerpted: > On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 3:49 AM, Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> wrote: >> Semantic-desktop: Just so you guys know[...] I'm **VERY** >> not happy with the 4.11 changes... > > I believe this was announced - the reason the flag was dropped was that > it can now be turned off via configuration. I did that and can't say > I've noticed any lag/etc. Maybe I should try turning it on... Yes... I read the announcement on I think both gentoo-desktop and on one of the dev's blogs thru gentoo-planet, and was upset then, but had a few weeks to churn before 4.11-beta1 came out and I needed to make some decision and take some action. Runtime toggling still pulls in the dependencies, unfortunately, and I don't want them near my system, so... > I do like being able to drop file indexing/etc without losing the > ability to install kmail. The kmail devs left users high and dry without a dependably working mail client, and they knew they were doing it. Why would I go back to that (especially with claws-mail working so well for me)? (Yes, kde4 itself did similar, but back then I didn't have much option as I was too heavily based on kde. Now, it's pretty much just the core desktop and the games as over the course of kde4 I've dropped kde for pretty much everything else. I still like the core desktop tho and would prefer to continue with it, but not if it's going to be pulling in semantic-desktop junk, and I honestly don't know if the required patches, should gentoo/kde not reverse course, will be maintainable at my skill level, over time.) -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman