From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99227138AC9 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 00:49:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0896021C013; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 00:49:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E888421C001 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 00:49:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E63733DC21 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 00:49:28 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV at gentoo.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.317 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.317 tagged_above=-999 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=-1.314, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([IPv6:::ffff:127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [IPv6:::ffff:127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BNWLUHwguh0c for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 00:49:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EA65633DC20 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 00:49:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1U7EvH-00023s-LU for gentoo-dev@gentoo.org; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 01:49:35 +0100 Received: from ip68-231-22-224.ph.ph.cox.net ([68.231.22.224]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 01:49:35 +0100 Received: from 1i5t5.duncan by ip68-231-22-224.ph.ph.cox.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 01:49:35 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: The status of the 'minor' arches in gentoo Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 00:49:04 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <2415518.JM1V4B20yx@devil> <1876970.ovCtsDMXQe@devil> <6375410.5RpIsDot9R@devil> <51214D75.1090201@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ip68-231-22-224.ph.ph.cox.net User-Agent: Pan/0.140 (Chocolate Salty Balls; GIT 038526b /usr/src/portage/src/egit-src/pan2) X-Archives-Salt: a5665b0c-1a90-4ec1-b469-ec91c5242b4a X-Archives-Hash: c42ee01270ce5c7991afdc1af0d719c3 Markos Chandras posted on Sun, 17 Feb 2013 21:36:53 +0000 as excerpted: > On 02/17/2013 09:30 PM, Agostino Sarubbo wrote: >> On Sunday 17 February 2013 13:14:28 Alec Warner wrote: >>> It is not clear to me why you would email the -dev list about these >>> arches, vapier is pretty responsive over email and irc. >> >> I don't guess is a good idea have a private conversation and then drop >> an arch... >> >> > Drop an arch? Who said that? We are talking about moving arches to > ~testing. Time again for the periodic "minor archs" discussion, apparently... While I have no direct personal interest in anything under discussion here, two observations, FWIW... 1) Having the private conversation (presumably with vapier) first, collecting information that could then go in the post to -dev, would seem useful. Doing anything without talking to him first is inappropriate in any case (as would be doing anything without a discussion on -dev, both would seem required), and that would have made the -dev conversation more useful, sooner. 2) That said, without pre-existing knowledge, no project page and etc makes it difficult to even find the person one should have a conversation with, in which case mailing -dev is at least some way to initialize the conversation. At least a "stub" project page, with contact info and some minimal description of the arch, perhaps a link to its page on wikipedia, when the project was started on gentoo and its goals, etc, could be useful. Which brings us full circle to the initial post, no project page or contact info, let's change that, either creating at least some minimal project pages with contact info at minimum (preferred if they are to be kept), or if that's considered not worth the bother, then really, why are they worth the bother to other gentooers at all, they should be dropped? -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman