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From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: Revisions for USE flag changes
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2017 02:32:20 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <pan$a949d$db7c5bf4$6c108345$93010625@cox.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 265b4480-8425-4c52-df23-0cf423e1c7f4@gentoo.org

Michael Orlitzky posted on Sat, 12 Aug 2017 10:14:18 -0400 as excerpted:

> On 08/12/2017 06:29 AM, Rich Freeman wrote:
>> 
>> My gut feeling is that the change you want is probably a good thing,
>> but it will never happen if you can't provide a single example of
>> something bad happening due to the lack of a revbump.
> 
> There's an unfixed security vulnerability with USE=foo, so we drop the
> flag temporarily. Users who had USE=foo enabled will keep the vulnerable
> code installed until they update with --changed-use or --newuse.
> 
> Even with the devmanual improvements, the advice we give is conflicting:
> 
>   * If you fix an important runtime issue, do a revbump.
> 
>   * If you drop a USE flag, don't do a revbump.
> 
> What if you fix a runtime issue by dropping a flag? It's more confusing
> than it has to be: the USE flag exception interacts weirdly with all the
> other rules.

Bad example as it's a security vuln, which requires masking/removing 
vulnerable versions, which will require a version bump in ordered to 
prevent downgrades if it was the latest visible for a (stable or ~arch) 
keyword.

So the version bump is effectively mandatory due to security overrides in 
any case, and that it was fixed by a temporary USE flag drop doesn't 
change things at all.  If that security-override isn't explicit in 
current documentation, that'd be the bug, not the fact that use-flag 
drops don't on their own require a version-bump.

-- 
Duncan - List replies preferred.   No HTML msgs.
"Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
and if you use the program, he is your master."  Richard Stallman



  reply	other threads:[~2017-08-13  2:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-11 23:50 [gentoo-dev] Revisions for USE flag changes Michael Orlitzky
2017-08-12  0:45 ` Brian Evans
2017-08-12  0:59   ` Michael Orlitzky
2017-08-12  1:04     ` Michael Orlitzky
2017-08-12  1:11     ` Brian Evans
2017-08-12  8:39       ` Paweł Hajdan, Jr.
2017-08-12  9:58         ` Michael Orlitzky
2017-08-13  2:52           ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2017-08-13 10:11             ` Michael Orlitzky
2017-08-13 10:18               ` M. J. Everitt
2017-08-14  1:34                 ` Duncan
2017-08-16 20:12               ` Daniel Campbell
2017-08-18 14:50             ` Duncan
2017-08-13  5:01           ` [gentoo-dev] " Hans de Graaff
2017-08-13 10:38             ` Michael Orlitzky
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2017-08-13 17:28                       ` Mike Gilbert
2017-08-12  4:22 ` [gentoo-dev] " Michael Palimaka
2017-08-12 10:16   ` Michael Orlitzky
2017-08-12 10:58     ` Michael Palimaka
2017-08-12 10:32   ` Rich Freeman
2017-08-12  5:02 ` [gentoo-dev] " Hans de Graaff
2017-08-12  7:03 ` Michał Górny
2017-08-12  9:57   ` Michael Orlitzky
2017-08-12 10:04     ` Toralf Förster
2017-08-12 10:29     ` Rich Freeman
2017-08-12 11:05       ` [gentoo-dev] " Michael Palimaka
2017-08-12 11:18         ` Rich Freeman
2017-08-14 12:01         ` Jason Zaman
2017-08-16  3:22           ` Michael Orlitzky
2017-08-16 15:56             ` Duncan
2017-08-16 16:09               ` Rich Freeman
2017-08-17  4:27             ` Jason Zaman
2017-08-12 14:14       ` [gentoo-dev] " Michael Orlitzky
2017-08-13  2:32         ` Duncan [this message]
2017-08-13 10:08           ` [gentoo-dev] " Michael Orlitzky
2017-08-13 16:06 ` [gentoo-dev] " William Hubbs
2017-08-13 16:12   ` Michael Orlitzky
2017-08-14 16:29     ` William L. Thomson Jr.
2017-08-14 16:21 ` William L. Thomson Jr.

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