[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2015-09-06 23:59 UTC

[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2015-09-06 23:59 UTC

[Robin H. Johnson]

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The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed
from the tree, for the week ending 2015-09-06 23:59 UTC.

Removals:

Additions:

--
Robin Hugh Johnson
Gentoo Linux Developer
E-Mail     : robbat2@gentoo.org
GnuPG FP   : 11AC BA4F 4778 E3F6 E4ED  F38E B27B 944E 3488 4E85

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Removed Packages:
Added Packages:
Done.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2015-09-06 23:59 UTC

[Dale]

Robin H. Johnson wrote:
> The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed
> from the tree, for the week ending 2015-09-06 23:59 UTC.
>
> Removals:
>
> Additions:
>
> --
> Robin Hugh Johnson
> Gentoo Linux Developer
> E-Mail     : robbat2@gentoo.org
> GnuPG FP   : 11AC BA4F 4778 E3F6 E4ED  F38E B27B 944E 3488 4E85


Ummmm.  You sure? 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2015-09-06 23:59 UTC

[Daniel Campbell]

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On 09/06/2015 05:10 PM, Dale wrote:
> Robin H. Johnson wrote:
>> The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or
>> removed from the tree, for the week ending 2015-09-06 23:59 UTC.
>> 
>> Removals:
>> 
>> Additions:
>> 
>> -- Robin Hugh Johnson Gentoo Linux Developer E-Mail     :
>> robbat2@gentoo.org GnuPG FP   : 11AC BA4F 4778 E3F6 E4ED  F38E
>> B27B 944E 3488 4E85
> 
> 
> Ummmm.  You sure?
> 
> Dale
> 
> :-)  :-)
> 
IIRC Robin's spoke with multiple other devs and a script has been
written to work on git. It just hasn't had everything ironed out yet.
Most notable being the cronjob that does the e-mail, based on what we
see. :) Give it some time.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2015-09-06 23:59 UTC

[Dale]

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Daniel Campbell wrote:
> On 09/06/2015 05:10 PM, Dale wrote:
> > Robin H. Johnson wrote:
> >> The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or
> >> removed from the tree, for the week ending 2015-09-06 23:59 UTC.
> >>
> >> Removals:
> >>
> >> Additions:
> >>
> >> -- Robin Hugh Johnson Gentoo Linux Developer E-Mail     :
> >> robbat2@gentoo.org GnuPG FP   : 11AC BA4F 4778 E3F6 E4ED  F38E
> >> B27B 944E 3488 4E85
>
>
> > Ummmm.  You sure?
>
> > Dale
>
> > :-)  :-)
>
> IIRC Robin's spoke with multiple other devs and a script has been
> written to work on git. It just hasn't had everything ironed out yet.
> Most notable being the cronjob that does the e-mail, based on what we
> see. :) Give it some time.
>
>
>


I saw some of the posts here about it and I thought they fixed it but I
guess it was something else they fixed.  I'm sure they will get around
to it one day.  No big deal, just wanted to post to hopefully get the
attention of the person that does that sort of thing.  Just in case they
thought it was fixed but somehow it failed. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2015-09-06 23:59 UTC

[malc]

I updated the scripts and since I didn't find them in a relevant
infra-repo, posted them to a couple of other replies to earlier week's
versions of this, cc: Robin.
I've heard nothing. I have opened
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=559894 and attached them
there.

On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 5:27 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
> Daniel Campbell wrote:
>
> On 09/06/2015 05:10 PM, Dale wrote:
>> Robin H. Johnson wrote:
>>> The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or
>>> removed from the tree, for the week ending 2015-09-06 23:59 UTC.
>>>
>>> Removals:
>>>
>>> Additions:
>>>
>>> -- Robin Hugh Johnson Gentoo Linux Developer E-Mail     :
>>> robbat2@gentoo.org GnuPG FP   : 11AC BA4F 4778 E3F6 E4ED  F38E
>>> B27B 944E 3488 4E85
>
>
>> Ummmm.  You sure?
>
>> Dale
>
>> :-)  :-)
>
> IIRC Robin's spoke with multiple other devs and a script has been
> written to work on git. It just hasn't had everything ironed out yet.
> Most notable being the cronjob that does the e-mail, based on what we
> see. :) Give it some time.
>
>>
>>
>
>
> I saw some of the posts here about it and I thought they fixed it but I
> guess it was something else they fixed.  I'm sure they will get around to it
> one day.  No big deal, just wanted to post to hopefully get the attention of
> the person that does that sort of thing.  Just in case they thought it was
> fixed but somehow it failed.
>
> Dale
>
> :-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2015-09-06 23:59 UTC

[Robin H. Johnson]

I've been travelling a lot the past month (Helsinki, LA, Seattle), and
it's on my list of stuff to do (along with finalize and announce the
migrated git history).

On Mon, Sep 07, 2015 at 06:46:11PM +0100, malc wrote:
> I updated the scripts and since I didn't find them in a relevant
> infra-repo, posted them to a couple of other replies to earlier week's
> versions of this, cc: Robin.
> I've heard nothing. I have opened
> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=559894 and attached them
> there.
> 
> On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 5:27 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Daniel Campbell wrote:
> >
> > On 09/06/2015 05:10 PM, Dale wrote:
> >> Robin H. Johnson wrote:
> >>> The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or
> >>> removed from the tree, for the week ending 2015-09-06 23:59 UTC.
> >>>
> >>> Removals:
> >>>
> >>> Additions:
> >>>
> >>> -- Robin Hugh Johnson Gentoo Linux Developer E-Mail     :
> >>> robbat2@gentoo.org GnuPG FP   : 11AC BA4F 4778 E3F6 E4ED  F38E
> >>> B27B 944E 3488 4E85
> >
> >
> >> Ummmm.  You sure?
> >
> >> Dale
> >
> >> :-)  :-)
> >
> > IIRC Robin's spoke with multiple other devs and a script has been
> > written to work on git. It just hasn't had everything ironed out yet.
> > Most notable being the cronjob that does the e-mail, based on what we
> > see. :) Give it some time.
> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > I saw some of the posts here about it and I thought they fixed it but I
> > guess it was something else they fixed.  I'm sure they will get around to it
> > one day.  No big deal, just wanted to post to hopefully get the attention of
> > the person that does that sort of thing.  Just in case they thought it was
> > fixed but somehow it failed.
> >
> > Dale
> >
> > :-)  :-)
> 

-- 
Robin Hugh Johnson
Gentoo Linux: Developer, Infrastructure Lead
E-Mail     : robbat2@gentoo.org
GnuPG FP   : 11ACBA4F 4778E3F6 E4EDF38E B27B944E 34884E85

[gentoo-dev] Re: Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2015-09-06 23:59 UTC

[Duncan]

Robin H. Johnson posted on Mon, 07 Sep 2015 23:54:36 +0000 as excerpted:

> I've been travelling a lot the past month (Helsinki, LA, Seattle), and
> it's on my list of stuff to do (along with finalize and announce the
> migrated git history).

[grumble grumble, top posting, tho you just followed what you were 
replying to, but it still makes it all but impossible to quote proper 
context, so I only did one level deep]

This is definitely not a personal complaint as I know you're doing what 
you can and will get to it in due time, and I'm immensely grateful that 
we have you working on it at all and that the git switch did actually 
happen even if it seemed to be an instance of DukeNukem:Forever, but...

The above has me somewhat concerned.  Any time an individual has to make 
excuses for something as ultimately critical to an organization as 
finishing up the loose ends on the git switchover is to gentoo, the words 
"bus factor" loom large in my head.

Is it simply that while others can do it, you were the one who 
volunteered, as you could make at least enough time to get the basics 
squared away in a relatively immediate timeframe, and will do the rest 
later, but there's others who would have eventually (perhaps months, or 
even a year or two later) gotten to it were you to meet some misfortune, 
or is it really down to (singular) YOU, and there's reason to worry, not 
just because of that, but because of the inevitable overwork and burnout 
such a situation unfortunately tends to lead to?

IOW, is there something the council or foundation needs to do proactively 
here to ease a pressure point before something blows and it's reactive, 
or are there human backups in place and tested/ready-if-needed just as 
surely as are the server backups?

-- 
Duncan - List replies preferred.   No HTML msgs.
"Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
and if you use the program, he is your master."  Richard Stallman

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2015-09-06 23:59 UTC

[Philip Webb]

Robin H. Johnson posted on Mon, 07 Sep 2015 23:54:36 +0000 as excerpted:
> I've been travelling a lot the past month (Helsinki, LA, Seattle)
> and it's on my list of stuff to do
> along with finalize and announce the migrated git history.

Others may have concerns, but I'm simply grateful for what Gentoo devs do,
esp the demanding + critical work of migrating to Git.

I envy your travels & hope you had time
to appreciate Helsinki's trams, LA's LRT & Seattle's trolleybuses (smile).

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2015-09-06 23:59 UTC

[malc]

On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 4:30 AM, Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> wrote:
>
> The above has me somewhat concerned.  Any time an individual has to make
> excuses for something as ultimately critical to an organization as
> finishing up the loose ends on the git switchover is to gentoo, the words
> "bus factor" loom large in my head.

@Duncan M'lord, thou doth protest too much. Pretty sure rich0 already
has a tentative gentoo-x86-history that can be grafted, I don't have
the details to hand, but he posted it on -dev. Certainly I don't
believe there is a single-point-of-failure here.

@Robin - Ack on the air-mile gathering :) Didn't mean to harass you,
just was seeking some positive acknowledgement that you'd seen the
updated scripts.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2015-09-06 23:59 UTC

[Dale]

Top posting for consistency. 

Just to be sure my first post was read the way it was intended, it was
meant as a joke but also to make sure whoever takes care of this was
aware it wasn't working the way it should.  I was aware that the move to
git sort of messed up some things, bumps in the road if you will, but my
post was not meant to be a bad thing by any means. 

As I have pointed out on other threads, git was a big move.  The fact
that there is a few bumps/issues that have to be worked on isn't a
surprise to me or likely anyone else.  So, my original post was meant to
point out that the script that does this isn't working and to get the
attention of whoever oversees it.  In a sort of joking way.  I think
folks that see my posts on -user would know how I am but I don't post on
-dev a lot. 

By the way, glad y'all got things switched over.  I know y'all been
working on getting this done for well . . . ages now.  Even if there was
another year of waiting, there would still have been a few bumps/issues
to work out.  Just keep up the good work and thanks for all you do.  I
been bumping around Gentoo for over a decade now.  It doesn't get any
better. 

Dale

:-)  :-)


Robin H. Johnson wrote:
> I've been travelling a lot the past month (Helsinki, LA, Seattle), and
> it's on my list of stuff to do (along with finalize and announce the
> migrated git history).
>
> On Mon, Sep 07, 2015 at 06:46:11PM +0100, malc wrote:
>> I updated the scripts and since I didn't find them in a relevant
>> infra-repo, posted them to a couple of other replies to earlier week's
>> versions of this, cc: Robin.
>> I've heard nothing. I have opened
>> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=559894 and attached them
>> there.
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 5:27 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Daniel Campbell wrote:
>>>
>>> On 09/06/2015 05:10 PM, Dale wrote:
>>>> Robin H. Johnson wrote:
>>>>> The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or
>>>>> removed from the tree, for the week ending 2015-09-06 23:59 UTC.
>>>>>
>>>>> Removals:
>>>>>
>>>>> Additions:
>>>>>
>>>>> -- Robin Hugh Johnson Gentoo Linux Developer E-Mail     :
>>>>> robbat2@gentoo.org GnuPG FP   : 11AC BA4F 4778 E3F6 E4ED  F38E
>>>>> B27B 944E 3488 4E85
>>>
>>>> Ummmm.  You sure?
>>>> Dale
>>>> :-)  :-)
>>> IIRC Robin's spoke with multiple other devs and a script has been
>>> written to work on git. It just hasn't had everything ironed out yet.
>>> Most notable being the cronjob that does the e-mail, based on what we
>>> see. :) Give it some time.
>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> I saw some of the posts here about it and I thought they fixed it but I
>>> guess it was something else they fixed.  I'm sure they will get around to it
>>> one day.  No big deal, just wanted to post to hopefully get the attention of
>>> the person that does that sort of thing.  Just in case they thought it was
>>> fixed but somehow it failed.
>>>
>>> Dale
>>>
>>> :-)  :-)

[gentoo-dev] Re: Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2015-09-06 23:59 UTC

[Duncan]

malc posted on Tue, 08 Sep 2015 15:35:03 +0100 as excerpted:

> On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 4:30 AM, Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> The above has me somewhat concerned.  Any time an individual has to
>> make excuses for something as ultimately critical to an organization as
>> finishing up the loose ends on the git switchover is to gentoo, the
>> words "bus factor" loom large in my head.
> 
> @Duncan M'lord, thou doth protest too much. Pretty sure rich0 already
> has a tentative gentoo-x86-history that can be grafted, I don't have the
> details to hand, but he posted it on -dev. Certainly I don't believe
> there is a single-point-of-failure here.

According to posts, the pre-git-history-graft is indeed more or less 
ready.  So we got that, yes.

I'm just perhaps a bit hyper-sensitized to what could be hints of 
burnout, is all.  I know from experience, just knowing a human safety net 
is there is a big pressure relief on its own.

-- 
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"Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
and if you use the program, he is your master."  Richard Stallman