From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: Current unavoidable use of xz utils in Gentoo
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2024 01:41:08 -0000 (UTC) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <pan$65761$ef03ef23$acfc6cab$62bf4dcf@cox.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: e8959706-decf-4547-9bc2-4b20b8c62748@koshie.fr
Kévin GASPARD DE RENEFORT posted on Wed, 3 Apr 2024 14:22:18 +0200 as
excerpted:
> Fork Gentoo, or any other distros, start a LFS…
In fact, Gentoo has been forked in this way at least three times. The
first time was over 20 years ago, before 2004 as I remember researching it
before I switched to Gentoo myself. IDR what it was called but it had
already by then pretty much fizzled out.
#2 and #3 are I believe still around and there's still some healthy
interaction between them and Gentoo. Funtoo is one, created by Gentoo's
original founder. It still uses portage and some of portage's features
are primarily used there. As a result, their contributions back to
portage have continued to make it better for all users. The other IDR the
name (maybe Herb...?, with paludis as the package-manager) but PMS, the
package-management-specification, that defines a portage- and package--
manager independent spec and the EAPI that packages use, is one of the
major efforts to come of it as they split off. And while most gentooers
still use portage, pms is the reason other package managers can really
work at all, and the thing much of the automated CI testing uses now,
making it a BIG benefit to Gentoo.
So forking is a legitimate and respected if not necessarily pleasant while
it's happening route to go, and often, some contributions from the process
continue to be useful to and benefit both forks for many years after the
fork. While forks do generally mean duplication of effort in some areas
and are often unpleasant to go through, the results aren't necessarily all
bad, particularly when viewed with an appreciation that people often
aren't paid for their work and could simply quite contributing entirely,
which means the duplication of effort isn't all negative if it still means
more contributions to the community than would happen if they just quit.
So if Gentoo's not doing it for you, in addition to the option of creating
your own fork being a not necessarily entirely bad option, there's two
other existing forks you might wish to look into, in case they're a better
fit for you than Gentoo.
--
Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs.
"Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman
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2024-03-30 3:07 [gentoo-dev] Current unavoidable use of xz utils in Gentoo Eddie Chapman
2024-03-30 3:43 ` orbea
2024-03-30 7:06 ` Dale
2024-03-30 10:47 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2024-03-30 11:32 ` [gentoo-dev] " Rich Freeman
2024-03-30 14:57 ` Eddie Chapman
2024-03-30 15:02 ` Michał Górny
2024-03-30 15:17 ` Eddie Chapman
2024-03-30 15:29 ` Michał Górny
2024-03-30 15:59 ` Eddie Chapman
2024-03-30 16:07 ` Dale
2024-03-30 17:13 ` Re[2]: " Stefan Schmiedl
2024-03-30 17:36 ` Eddie Chapman
2024-03-31 1:41 ` Thomas Gall
2024-03-30 23:49 ` Eddie Chapman
2024-03-31 1:36 ` Eli Schwartz
2024-03-30 15:23 ` orbea
2024-03-30 15:14 ` Rich Freeman
2024-03-30 17:19 ` Eddie Chapman
2024-03-31 1:25 ` Sam James
2024-03-31 1:33 ` Eli Schwartz
2024-03-31 11:13 ` Eddie Chapman
2024-03-31 11:59 ` Matt Jolly
2024-04-01 7:57 ` Eddie Chapman
2024-04-01 14:50 ` Eli Schwartz
2024-04-02 8:43 ` Eddie Chapman
2024-04-02 19:46 ` Eli Schwartz
2024-04-02 20:19 ` Eddie Chapman
2024-04-01 14:55 ` Michał Górny
2024-04-02 9:02 ` Eddie Chapman
2024-04-01 15:14 ` Kenton Groombridge
2024-04-01 15:40 ` orbea
2024-04-01 16:01 ` Kenton Groombridge
2024-04-01 16:21 ` orbea
2024-04-01 18:51 ` Kévin GASPARD DE RENEFORT
2024-04-01 20:07 ` James Le Cuirot
2024-04-02 6:32 ` Joonas Niilola
2024-03-31 11:32 ` stefan11111
2024-04-01 14:56 ` Azamat Hackimov
2024-04-02 19:32 ` Eddie Chapman
2024-04-03 11:47 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2024-04-03 12:14 ` Sam James
2024-04-03 15:30 ` [gentoo-dev] " Eddie Chapman
2024-04-03 16:40 ` Michael Orlitzky
2024-04-04 3:20 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2024-04-04 3:49 ` [gentoo-dev] " Eli Schwartz
2024-04-04 8:32 ` Sam James
2024-04-04 8:34 ` Kévin GASPARD DE RENEFORT
2024-04-04 14:38 ` Eddie Chapman
2024-04-04 14:24 ` Eddie Chapman
2024-04-06 11:57 ` Eddie Chapman
2024-04-06 12:15 ` Ulrich Mueller
2024-04-06 12:34 ` Roy Bamford
2024-04-06 14:04 ` Fabian Groffen
2024-04-07 6:44 ` Eddie Chapman
2024-04-06 16:15 ` Sam James
2024-04-07 11:24 ` Eddie Chapman
2024-04-11 5:21 ` Joonas Niilola
2024-04-12 7:18 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2024-04-13 7:10 ` [gentoo-dev] " Eddie Chapman
2024-04-03 12:22 ` [gentoo-dev] " Kévin GASPARD DE RENEFORT
2024-04-03 12:26 ` Kévin GASPARD DE RENEFORT
2024-04-04 1:41 ` Duncan [this message]
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