From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 841F81381FA for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2014 16:22:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D2E87E08E6; Wed, 4 Jun 2014 16:22:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E78C2E0867 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2014 16:22:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B66833F8BC for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2014 16:22:22 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV at gentoo.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.495 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.495 tagged_above=-999 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=-0.842, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.651, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([IPv6:::ffff:127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [IPv6:::ffff:127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KggJj-e05Cx5 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2014 16:22:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 69F3833FC72 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2014 16:22:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WsDwg-0001Ew-Ba for gentoo-dev@gentoo.org; Wed, 04 Jun 2014 18:21:46 +0200 Received: from ip68-231-22-224.ph.ph.cox.net ([68.231.22.224]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 04 Jun 2014 18:21:46 +0200 Received: from 1i5t5.duncan by ip68-231-22-224.ph.ph.cox.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 04 Jun 2014 18:21:46 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: news item for upower Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2014 16:21:34 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <538DED0F.8010709@gentoo.org> <1401812396.19408.4.camel@oswin.hackershack.net> <20140603185813.18588.qmail@stuge.se> <538E26F6.2000801@gentoo.org> <538E2EEB.1080309@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ip68-231-22-224.ph.ph.cox.net User-Agent: Pan/0.140 (Chocolate Salty Balls; GIT 2ae6aff /usr/src/portage/src/egit-src/pan2) X-Archives-Salt: 52af3b63-ce6e-445b-834b-74e84a312141 X-Archives-Hash: 4c437cdeda831edc9dd4265c98aa58fa Rich Freeman posted on Wed, 04 Jun 2014 07:41:23 -0400 as excerpted: > On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 4:24 PM, Alan McKinnon > wrote: >> >> Yes, it *is* a simple matter of running one easy command. Portage does >> that for you with trivial ease. But portage doesn't tell you *which* is >> the one easy command. >> >> A news item does that. > > That is the real challenge here. It isn't obvious to most users that > upower is causing the problem, and it is even less obvious to users > without using Google that there is an alternative. > > Anybody who doesn't read the lists or GMN wouldn't probably wouldn't > realize that the simple fix exists. This. It's only simple for me because I saw it right here ahead of time, and it's only simple for ssuominen because he knows about the other choice since he created the package. Otherwise, it's an exercise in reading the ebuilds, and a good gentooer should be /able/ to do that, but shouldn't /have/ to do that in the normal case. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman