From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9F411381F3 for ; Thu, 11 Apr 2013 02:28:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5B65AE092E; Thu, 11 Apr 2013 02:28:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5C8F3E0925 for ; Thu, 11 Apr 2013 02:27:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BBAB33DDC1 for ; Thu, 11 Apr 2013 02:27:58 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV at gentoo.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.492 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.492 tagged_above=-999 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=-0.117, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-2.373, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=unavailable Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([IPv6:::ffff:127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [IPv6:::ffff:127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VbkqfBFfffkN for ; Thu, 11 Apr 2013 02:27:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 920F333DC93 for ; Thu, 11 Apr 2013 02:27:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UQ7Es-0002lu-78 for gentoo-dev@gentoo.org; Thu, 11 Apr 2013 04:27:50 +0200 Received: from ip68-231-22-224.ph.ph.cox.net ([68.231.22.224]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 11 Apr 2013 04:27:50 +0200 Received: from 1i5t5.duncan by ip68-231-22-224.ph.ph.cox.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 11 Apr 2013 04:27:50 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: glibc: pt_chown setuid going away by default Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 02:27:37 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <201304100115.53431.vapier@gentoo.org> <201304101532.41246.vapier@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ip68-231-22-224.ph.ph.cox.net User-Agent: Pan/0.140 (Chocolate Salty Balls; GIT 099bd57 /usr/src/portage/src/egit-src/pan2) X-Archives-Salt: 505170ed-dae7-4a6c-8cea-bfc499e1312f X-Archives-Hash: d7ea7b4ae966ea33b94c96601e86970c Mike Frysinger posted on Wed, 10 Apr 2013 15:32:40 -0400 as excerpted: > On Wednesday 10 April 2013 14:56:26 Rich Freeman wrote: >> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 1:15 AM, Mike Frysinger >> wrote: >> > tl;dr: make sure your /dev/pts is mounted correctly w/gid=5 or bad >> > things will happen and it's (probably) all your fault >> >> So, who is this directed to? >> If this is to anybody who uses Gentoo, >> then at best this should be a place to hash out the contents of the >> news item. We don't expect Gentoo users to read -dev. > > users will be informed of the problem when the ebuild fails and then can > trivially resolve it at that point. this should impact very few (if > any) users, so i don't think a news item makes sense. /This/ user would have been affected. I guess the GID bit wasn't in the shipped fstab back in 2004 when I setup the system, or in any case, it wasn't there until I just added it last nite, based on this thread. Of course, /this/ user reads dev, too, exactly because it does give me a heads-up on such things, as well as a bit of the reasoning (and often some discussion) behind it. I'd argue that any gentooer that takes their gentooing sysadmin responsibilities seriously really should read -dev for exactly that reason, but I suppose in practice we're actually lucky that most don't, or the list would either be too busy to follow (and get anything else done) or would have to be read-only for ordinary users. But you're right in that if I hadn't read it here, the die and I assume a reasonable die message would have informed me what action I needed to take to fix the problem. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman