From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FA60139A83 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 2015 02:03:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0EC2821C07A; Thu, 10 Sep 2015 02:03:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 29DBA21C03B for ; Thu, 10 Sep 2015 02:03:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZZrCi-0004Vr-70 for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2015 04:03:12 +0200 Received: from ip98-167-165-199.ph.ph.cox.net ([98.167.165.199]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 2015 04:03:12 +0200 Received: from 1i5t5.duncan by ip98-167-165-199.ph.ph.cox.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 2015 04:03:12 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: firefox gtk3 status, danger of gtk2 in-tree deprecation? Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2015 02:02:55 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <55EFDDAD.9030502@gentoo.org> <55F05107.9000004@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ip98-167-165-199.ph.ph.cox.net User-Agent: Pan/0.140 (Chocolate Salty Balls; GIT af87825) X-Archives-Salt: dc8519a3-5002-4281-b7db-f4c74db72830 X-Archives-Hash: 775ff6896250e7649f08b80c131bdafa Ian Stakenvicius posted on Wed, 09 Sep 2015 11:32:23 -0400 as excerpted: > Firefox's use of gtk3 actually still requires gtk2, so gtk2 won't be > deprecated (at least not any time soon). I was entirely unaware of that. Thanks. It changes the picture dramatically. > Also, FYI, since gtk2 will (for the forseeable future) always be > required by the firefox core, we are going to add a gtk3 flag to provide > end-user control of building the frontend against gtk3 or not. > > I don't think deprecation of gtk2 is anything we are going to need to > worry about any time soon. Thanks. As I said, firefox-core still requiring gtk2 changes the picture dramatically, both for gentoo, and as part of pan upstream, for it as well. FWIW, there's still some of us that remember the gtk1 based xmms with fondness for its clean just-what-we-need interface and lack of extraneous deps, while at the same time providing fancy visualization, etc. Similarly, there's still those trying to use the kde-sunset overlay for a kde3 app or two. Personally, I try to be on the (moderately) leading edge rather than the trailing and was well off of both of these before they disappeared from the tree, but that's why I'm asking these sorts of questions (and why I follow this list, as well), giving me as long as possible to prepare and try to find suitable replacements before I'm under the gun. As for pan upstream, I'm on record on the pan lists as saying that until firefox switches to gtk3, there's not a lot to worry about regarding gtk2, since firefox really is the big gtk2 elephant in the room and practically speaking, gtk2 isn't going anywhere until firefox does, either by switching to something else, or by becoming irrelevant. With mentions of gtk3 based firefox now in distros and that being my trigger of record, I was starting to worry about pan on gtk3. But if firefox still requires gtk2 at its core, the trigger doesn't look to have actually been pulled, after all. That really /does/ change the picture, so... Thanks again! =:^) -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman