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From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: Current unavoidable use of xz utils in Gentoo
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2024 03:20:14 -0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <pan$3c390$c571bef7$ff8c7674$fc4550d7@cox.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: b2a3825bc9666df89d5c5f1653fb0fcfe5d53717.camel@gentoo.org

Michael Orlitzky posted on Wed, 03 Apr 2024 12:40:26 -0400 as excerpted:

> On Wed, 2024-04-03 at 16:30 +0100, Eddie Chapman wrote:
>> It does involve a relatively small hack and functionality previously
>> provided by xz-utils is replaced by app-arch/p7zip.
> 
> I did the same thing with app-arch/unzip a long time ago. You caught a
> lot of shit for your post, but I don't think it was out of line.
> 
> Worst case? You spent a lot of time building a fragile solution to a
> non-problem that everyone said you were crazy for wanting in the first
> place. Hi, this is Gentoo, glad to have you.

Gentoo as "meta-distro":

Yes.  I suspect many, perhaps most, Gentooers (individually or at the 
company level for corporate deployments) eventually end up doing their own 
thing to some degree or another.  I haven't seen the term used much 
recently, but Gentoo can legitimately lay claim to "meta-distro", that is, 
a distro that makes it reasonably easy to do your own thing, creating a 
"mini-distro" for your own use.  In fact it's reasonable to argue that (at 
least before the gentoo-mainstream binary packages became a thing) the 
relative costs of building it yourself likely ultimately lead most users 
who do /not/ need the meta-distro aspect to switch back to a more binary-
inclined distro, perhaps arch if they still want a lot of flexibility, 
which means the ones that stick around on Gentoo for say a decade or 
longer tend to do so /because/ they ended up using that meta-distro 
aspect.

In my own case my reverse-usrmerge ( /usr -> .) is certainly my biggest 
current meta-distro level divergence, tho historically, keeping
USE=-semantic-desktop functionality alive locally during the period that 
the gentoo/kde project dropped it was an equally major divergence... but 
equally doable due to Gentoo's meta-distro aspect.

Tho both would be rather harder were it not for git; I may not have done 
either one if git hadn't happened and svn was still king.

-- 
Duncan - List replies preferred.   No HTML msgs.
"Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
and if you use the program, he is your master."  Richard Stallman



  reply	other threads:[~2024-04-04  3:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-30  3:07 [gentoo-dev] Current unavoidable use of xz utils in Gentoo Eddie Chapman
2024-03-30  3:43 ` orbea
2024-03-30  7:06   ` Dale
2024-03-30 10:47     ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2024-03-30 11:32     ` [gentoo-dev] " Rich Freeman
2024-03-30 14:57       ` Eddie Chapman
2024-03-30 15:02         ` Michał Górny
2024-03-30 15:17           ` Eddie Chapman
2024-03-30 15:29             ` Michał Górny
2024-03-30 15:59               ` Eddie Chapman
2024-03-30 16:07             ` Dale
2024-03-30 17:13             ` Re[2]: " Stefan Schmiedl
2024-03-30 17:36               ` Eddie Chapman
2024-03-31  1:41                 ` Thomas Gall
2024-03-30 23:49             ` Eddie Chapman
2024-03-31  1:36             ` Eli Schwartz
2024-03-30 15:23           ` orbea
2024-03-30 15:14         ` Rich Freeman
2024-03-30 17:19           ` Eddie Chapman
2024-03-31  1:25 ` Sam James
2024-03-31  1:33 ` Eli Schwartz
2024-03-31 11:13   ` Eddie Chapman
2024-03-31 11:59     ` Matt Jolly
2024-04-01  7:57       ` Eddie Chapman
2024-04-01 14:50         ` Eli Schwartz
2024-04-02  8:43           ` Eddie Chapman
2024-04-02 19:46             ` Eli Schwartz
2024-04-02 20:19               ` Eddie Chapman
2024-04-01 14:55         ` Michał Górny
2024-04-02  9:02           ` Eddie Chapman
2024-04-01 15:14     ` Kenton Groombridge
2024-04-01 15:40       ` orbea
2024-04-01 16:01         ` Kenton Groombridge
2024-04-01 16:21           ` orbea
2024-04-01 18:51             ` Kévin GASPARD DE RENEFORT
2024-04-01 20:07               ` James Le Cuirot
2024-04-02  6:32                 ` Joonas Niilola
2024-03-31 11:32   ` stefan11111
2024-04-01 14:56 ` Azamat Hackimov
2024-04-02 19:32   ` Eddie Chapman
2024-04-03 11:47     ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2024-04-03 12:14       ` Sam James
2024-04-03 15:30         ` [gentoo-dev] " Eddie Chapman
2024-04-03 16:40           ` Michael Orlitzky
2024-04-04  3:20             ` Duncan [this message]
2024-04-04  3:49           ` Eli Schwartz
2024-04-04  8:32             ` Sam James
2024-04-04  8:34               ` Kévin GASPARD DE RENEFORT
2024-04-04 14:38               ` Eddie Chapman
2024-04-04 14:24             ` Eddie Chapman
2024-04-06 11:57               ` Eddie Chapman
2024-04-06 12:15                 ` Ulrich Mueller
2024-04-06 12:34                 ` Roy Bamford
2024-04-06 14:04                 ` Fabian Groffen
2024-04-07  6:44                   ` Eddie Chapman
2024-04-06 16:15                 ` Sam James
2024-04-07 11:24                   ` Eddie Chapman
2024-04-11  5:21                 ` Joonas Niilola
2024-04-12  7:18                   ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2024-04-13  7:10                   ` [gentoo-dev] " Eddie Chapman
2024-04-03 12:22       ` [gentoo-dev] " Kévin GASPARD DE RENEFORT
2024-04-03 12:26         ` Kévin GASPARD DE RENEFORT
2024-04-04  1:41         ` Duncan

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