[gentoo-dev] PowerPC meeting minutes - 05/15/15

[gentoo-dev] PowerPC meeting minutes - 05/15/15

[Jack Morgan]

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Team,

The PowerPC developer team had a meeting this week. Here are the meeting 
minutes from our meeting on 05/15/15. Also sending this out to 
gentoo-dev list to get feedback from a wide audience.


0) roll call
jmorgan, blueness, JoseJX were present. rej and lu_zero responded after 
reading backlog.


1) Developer status

For those who didn't make the meeting, please check the list of 
developers in the wiki[1]. If you are no longer active on powerpc or 
taking a break, please let us know. If you would like to help out either 
by becoming an Arch Testor (AT) or are a developer who has some 
cycles/hardware to spare, we would appreciate the assistance.


2) Status of timberdoodle[2]

Who is "managing" this system?
--We discovered that several developers have sudo access, blueness 
volunteered to be the point of contact for this resource. He will work 
with infra to update the contact person details in the wiki[2]. If you 
would like a shell account to do keyword testing, let him know.


3) keywordreq/stablereq

(a) systemd support
--No one mentioned they have tested systemd on a live system. Though 
this feature has been keyworded, it is not known if it works of not on a 
live system. I said I would try in a week or so. If you are running 
ppc/ppc64 on systemd, it would be good to know that. I had trouble 
getting it working on sparc for example. I'm told there might not be a 
lot of support for non-Intel based hardware.

(b) gnome/kde desktop support
--Based on whether systemd works or not, we will evaluate continuing 
supporting these desktops. I believe systemd is required for gnome for 
example. I'm not sure of the state of kde, need to test it. For now, we 
consider these desktops stable on powerpc and will reevaluate this at a 
future date.

(c) java support
--The java team is working on getting java stable on both ppc/ppc64. 
Thanks for their effort. We need to be testing, keywording and closing 
any open bugzilla on java to assist in this effort. Please take a look 
at those bugs in bugzilla.

(d) broken install due to yaboot/sys-fs/e2fsprogs bug (527974)
--A user reported on IRC that they were not able to complete an install 
due to this bug. After some discussion, JoseJX said he would look into 
it. He was able to attach a patch and Spanky (vapier) was able to make 
some adjustments. This patch seems to have fixed the problem. JoseJX 
will continue to work this bug. Once that is done, we now need to build 
new stage3 and possibly an installcd.

(e) overall bugzilla status:
ppc:        total bugs (114), keywordreq (62), stablereq (11)
ppc64:    total bugs (104), keywordreq (22), stablereq (51)

Here are our bug count in bugzilla at the time of writing. Thanks to 
everyone who is helping keep our bug count low.


4) opens
--Just a reminder that we have consolidated our mailing lists to a 
single gentoo-powerpc@lists.gentoo.org list now. Please join the list if 
you are interested in this arch.
--We will have a team meeting every few months (once a quarter) to sync 
up on powerpc development work.


[1] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:PowerPC
[2] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Infrastructure/Developer_Machines

thanks,

-- 
Jack Morgan
Pub 4096R/761D8E0A 2010-09-13 Jack Morgan<jmorgan@gentoo.org>
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[gentoo-dev] Re: PowerPC meeting minutes - 05/15/15

[Duncan]

Jack Morgan posted on Sun, 17 May 2015 07:14:41 -0700 as excerpted:

> (b) gnome/kde desktop support --Based on whether systemd works or not,
> we will evaluate continuing supporting these desktops. I believe systemd
> is required for gnome for example. I'm not sure of the state of kde,
> need to test it. For now, we consider these desktops stable on powerpc
> and will reevaluate this at a future date.

For kde4 at least, KDE had a policy /not/ requiring systemd.  I'm not 
sure on kde5 (the apps for which aren't even in the tree yet, I believe, 
but it's coming... tho I've been unable to get kwin5 working on amd64 
here with radeon native kernel/mesa/xorg drivers), but I /believe/ 
they're keeping the same policy as I've not seen otherwise.

Of course I've no idea of kde ppc status.

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