From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF9371384B4 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2015 16:59:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B28E221C019; Tue, 29 Dec 2015 16:59:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9B4DEE0872 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2015 16:59:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aDxcb-0004wS-5F for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Tue, 29 Dec 2015 17:59:41 +0100 Received: from ip98-167-165-199.ph.ph.cox.net ([98.167.165.199]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2015 17:59:41 +0100 Received: from 1i5t5.duncan by ip98-167-165-199.ph.ph.cox.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2015 17:59:41 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] New project: Crypto Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2015 16:59:36 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <5655EBF0.9000804@gentoo.org> <56560A11.8030700@gentoo.org> <56561851.2020900@gentoo.org> <20151228014934.e94250f4670cde139dbc7867@gentoo.org> <21A8380F-6010-4CDD-8DEF-02FA11217D21@gentoo.org> <20151228145813.40343a43@symphony.aura-online.co.uk> <9AB9A178-B4A1-4493-A3A4-0B3A855E603F@gentoo.org> <5682918A.5070003@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ip98-167-165-199.ph.ph.cox.net User-Agent: Pan/0.140 (Chocolate Salty Balls; GIT 02eaa66) X-Archives-Salt: c4822262-9d0e-441d-a409-97c3c5aa84c9 X-Archives-Hash: ed202f6ee612899dbb67ebe2c26dadbe Rich Freeman posted on Tue, 29 Dec 2015 09:27:59 -0500 as excerpted: > In the US everybody seems to be afraid of big brother but big brother > has enough big data that he doesn't really need you to use his fancy > signing device anyway. It isn't just big brother, tho that's bad enough. Such a government mandated device for signing all financial transactions is a political no- go here in the US due to "mark of the beast" concerns. After all, the prophesy did say people couldn't buy or sell without it, and even a lot of people who are no longer generally religious are still wary of that. That's one of the reasons the post-9/11 federally mandated ID reforms had so much resistance, and those aren't required to buy or sell. If someone tried to mandate something like that for financial transactions it could very easily spark a revolution here, and I'm not kidding. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman