From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F6E41387FD for ; Sun, 30 Mar 2014 23:15:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 65BB0E0B0D; Sun, 30 Mar 2014 23:15:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7E30CE0ABE for ; Sun, 30 Mar 2014 23:15:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9178D33FB91 for ; Sun, 30 Mar 2014 23:15:37 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV at gentoo.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.374 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.374 tagged_above=-999 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=-0.982, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.39, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([IPv6:::ffff:127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [IPv6:::ffff:127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TrO36MHU6pJ1 for ; Sun, 30 Mar 2014 23:15:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B30EC33FB8C for ; Sun, 30 Mar 2014 23:15:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WUOwq-0000Vx-4q for gentoo-dev@gentoo.org; Mon, 31 Mar 2014 01:15:28 +0200 Received: from ip68-231-22-224.ph.ph.cox.net ([68.231.22.224]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 31 Mar 2014 01:15:28 +0200 Received: from 1i5t5.duncan by ip68-231-22-224.ph.ph.cox.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 31 Mar 2014 01:15:28 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: Why is IUSE=hpn mandatory in openssh ? Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2014 23:15:18 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <53369B59.4000002@gmx.de> <5336AB42.2090007@yahoo.ca> <20140329201238.40d7cd56@gentoo.org> <5337463B.5050107@gmx.de> <533749D2.3060504@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ip68-231-22-224.ph.ph.cox.net User-Agent: Pan/0.140 (Chocolate Salty Balls; GIT 2ae6aff /usr/src/portage/src/egit-src/pan2) X-Archives-Salt: a28ec279-9293-40aa-ab2e-7ae634edf7f6 X-Archives-Hash: 87fead472711e7e8256464a3f1bda515 hasufell posted on Sat, 29 Mar 2014 22:31:46 +0000 as excerpted: >> At least an einfo should be added to the package IMO telling the user >> that HPN is enabled by default. >> >> > No, that's not the right approach. There are tools you can use to check > what flags are enabled. Use 'eix' and 'equery' for example. ... Or even the gentoo-recommended emerge --pretend or emerge -ask and actually examining the output to ensure it's doing what you intend, before actually going ahead. Gentoo has never pretended to be a hand-holding distribution (tho it seems to be getting rather more so these days); gentooers ignoring that recommendation... get to keep the pieces. =:^) If a gentooer didn't care enough to bother following long established best-practice recommendations and thus end up with what might be an insecure ssh despite the tools and recommendations available to help them make an appropriate choice, that's their problem, not gentoo's. If they can't be bothered to care, there's other distributions around to do that baby-sitting for them. (Of course, whether such distributions are themselves simply acting in accord with the wishes of NSA nannies is an entirely different question... at least gentoo generally exposes that sort of choice to the user... as it is in fact doing here, as well.) -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman