From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DFD41381F3 for ; Sun, 16 Jun 2013 14:10:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 65619E0952; Sun, 16 Jun 2013 14:10:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 72E8EE08A6 for ; Sun, 16 Jun 2013 14:10:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA9E033DB75 for ; Sun, 16 Jun 2013 14:10:05 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV at gentoo.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.441 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.441 tagged_above=-999 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=-1.117, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.322, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([IPv6:::ffff:127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [IPv6:::ffff:127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5gdCSleOXVjZ for ; Sun, 16 Jun 2013 14:09:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8383433E3D5 for ; Sun, 16 Jun 2013 14:09:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UoDeT-00050v-GN for gentoo-dev@gentoo.org; Sun, 16 Jun 2013 16:09:53 +0200 Received: from ip68-231-22-224.ph.ph.cox.net ([68.231.22.224]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 16 Jun 2013 16:09:53 +0200 Received: from 1i5t5.duncan by ip68-231-22-224.ph.ph.cox.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 16 Jun 2013 16:09:53 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: Lastrites: rox-base/rox-clib, sys-firmware/iwl3945-ucode, rox-extra/downloadmanager, sys-cluster/mpi-dotnet, media-tv/livestation, dev-lang/boo, gnome-extra/contacts, net-im/qutecom, net-fs/djmount, dev-python/gtkhtml-python, =gnome-extra/gtkhtml-2.11.1, =?us-ascii?q?app-office=2Fosmo=2Capp-office=2Ftaxbird=2Capp?= =?us-ascii?q?-editors=2Ffte=2C?= dev-util/monodoc, =?us-ascii?q?dev-dotnet=2Fnjb-sharp=2Cnet-wireless=2Fipw3?= =?us-ascii?q?945=2C?= net-wireless/ipw3945-ucode, net-wireless/ipw3945d Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 14:09:38 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1371328670.17293.9.camel@localhost> <1371388766.22480.2.camel@localhost> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ip68-231-22-224.ph.ph.cox.net User-Agent: Pan/0.140 (Chocolate Salty Balls; GIT 27fdbf2 /usr/src/portage/src/egit-src/pan2) X-Archives-Salt: 07d4d4a9-316a-46d4-910a-98cb52961b94 X-Archives-Hash: 425f524b1c1ea0b0f8520f39c547afc2 Pacho Ramos posted on Sun, 16 Jun 2013 15:19:26 +0200 as excerpted: > El dom, 16-06-2013 a las 12:42 +0000, Duncan escribió: >> Pacho Ramos posted on Sat, 15 Jun 2013 22:37:50 +0200 as excerpted: >> >> [Snipped as my comment refers to the subject] >> >> Could you split-up announcements like this into multiple announcements, >> so the subject lines remain a reasonable length, please? > > I am not sure it deserves the effort, or do you have any idea about how > to send all this in splitted mails easily (currently, I need to simply > add all the mask entry and copy it to the mail body) :/ If it's a (semi-)manual process as the "simply add all" seems to imply, you could just do it in smaller chunks, say no more than a half-dozen packages at a time, so the subject length stays reasonable. Or as I said if the packages are all related, don't worry about the length as it'd then be reasonably easy to glance at and say "oh, that's nothing I care about anyway" or "that interests me I better look closer". If it's an automated script, that could be more difficult, but at the same time, I'd /guess/ that if there's a script doing most of it already, adding logic to split by category and fire off one for each if there's more than a half-dozen individual packages to deal with at once, shouldn't be but an incremental add. Using this one as an example, by my count there's 20 packages listed, which would split into ~3-4 separate announcements using the eyeballed half-dozen method, or ~7 announcements using a crude group by first category-segment (rox-*(2), sys-*(2), media*(1), dev-*(4), gnome-*(2), net-*(5), app-*(3) ) automated method. Using an incrementally more advanced "combine groups until you hit a half-dozen max" method, rox/sys/ media would combine for one announcement, dev/gnome combine, net by itself, app by itself, four separate announcements total. If nobody else finds the long subjects worth worrying about, maybe it's just me and don't worry about it. But I'd think it'd be easier to follow threads just from an "I'll take this one" reply context as well, as even just that gets confusing to follow when there's 20 unrelated packages in the same thread, such that a dev interested in just one now has to look at all the replies to see if there's an "I'll take this" on his target package already, instead of just scanning subjects and seeing there isn't a reply yet to the thread naming the single package he's interested in. But maybe it /is/ just me... -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman