[gentoo-dev] News item: Removal of Ruby MRI 1.8; Ruby MRI 1.9 and 2.0 now default

[gentoo-dev] News item: Removal of Ruby MRI 1.8; Ruby MRI 1.9 and 2.0 now default

[Manuel Rüger]

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As we will remove Ruby 1.8 from tree and add Ruby 2.0 target to base
profile's RUBY_TARGETS variable, this will be the news item for the
upcoming changes.

Cheers,

Manuel

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Title: Removal of Ruby MRI 1.8; Ruby MRI 1.9 and 2.0 now default
Author: Manuel Rüger <mrueg@gentoo.org>
Content-Type: text/plain
Posted: 2014-03-07
Revision: 1
News-Item-Format: 1.0
Display-If-Installed: dev-lang/ruby

Ruby MRI 1.8 has been retired by upstream in June 2013.[1]
We remove Ruby MRI 1.8 support from the tree now. In parallel Ruby MRI 2.0 
support will be activated in base profile's RUBY_TARGETS variable by default 
in conjunction with Ruby MRI 1.9.

If your currently eselected Ruby interpreter is ruby18, our recommendation is 
to change it to ruby19. At the moment Ruby MRI 1.9 delivers the best possible 
support of all Ruby interpreters in tree.

Check the current setting via:

	eselect ruby show

Change the current setting to Ruby MRI 1.9 via:

	eselect ruby set ruby19

[1] https://www.ruby-lang.org/en/news/2013/06/30/we-retire-1-8-7/

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Re: [gentoo-dev] News item: Removal of Ruby MRI 1.8; Ruby MRI 1.9 and 2.0 now default

[Ulrich Mueller]

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>>>>> On Fri, 07 Mar 2014, Manuel Rüger wrote:

> Title: Removal of Ruby MRI 1.8; Ruby MRI 1.9 and 2.0 now default

Too long, 44 chars maximum by GLEP 42.

Ulrich

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[gentoo-dev] Re: News item: Removal of Ruby MRI 1.8; Ruby MRI 1.9 and 2.0 now default

[Duncan]

Ulrich Mueller posted on Fri, 07 Mar 2014 19:07:18 +0100 as excerpted:

>>>>>> On Fri, 07 Mar 2014, Manuel Rüger wrote:
> 
>> Title: Removal of Ruby MRI 1.8; Ruby MRI 1.9 and 2.0 now default
> 
> Too long, 44 chars maximum by GLEP 42.
> 
> Ulrich

Hmm...

0         1         2         3         4
012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234

Removal of Ruby MRI 1.8; Ruby MRI 1.9 and 2.0 now default

(No go, too long.)

Suggested:

Ruby MRI 1.8 removal; 1.9/2.0 now default

Or...

Ruby MRI 1.8 removal; 1.9 recommended default

(The latter is GLEP 42's max 44 chars exactly, and accurately
represents the recommended eselect ruby setting.)

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: News item: Removal of Ruby MRI 1.8; Ruby MRI 1.9 and 2.0 now default

[Tom Wijsman]

On Sat, 8 Mar 2014 01:46:52 +0000 (UTC)
Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> wrote:

> 0         1         2         3         4
> 012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234
> Ruby MRI 1.8 removal; 1.9 recommended default
> 
> (The latter is GLEP 42's max 44 chars exactly, and accurately
> represents the recommended eselect ruby setting.)

  $ x="Ruby MRI 1.8 removal; 1.9 recommended default" ; echo ${#x}
 45

Since you have started with 0 instead of 1, you have one character
more; thus we'll need to find another character to cut, since that
doesn't seem possible I suggest we drop the word "default" instead.

  $ x="Ruby MRI 1.8 removal; 1.9 recommended" ; echo ${#x}
 37

-- 
With kind regards,

Tom Wijsman (TomWij)
Gentoo Developer

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: News item: Removal of Ruby MRI 1.8; Ruby MRI 1.9 and 2.0 now default

[Alex Xu]

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On 08/03/14 05:37 AM, Tom Wijsman wrote:
> On Sat, 8 Mar 2014 01:46:52 +0000 (UTC)
> Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> wrote:
> 
>> 0         1         2         3         4
>> 012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234
>> Ruby MRI 1.8 removal; 1.9 recommended default
>>
>> (The latter is GLEP 42's max 44 chars exactly, and accurately
>> represents the recommended eselect ruby setting.)
> 
>   $ x="Ruby MRI 1.8 removal; 1.9 recommended default" ; echo ${#x}
>  45
> 
> Since you have started with 0 instead of 1, you have one character
> more; thus we'll need to find another character to cut, since that
> doesn't seem possible I suggest we drop the word "default" instead.
> 
>   $ x="Ruby MRI 1.8 removal; 1.9 recommended" ; echo ${#x}
>  37
> 

$ x="Ruby MRI 1.8 removal; 1.9 now recommended" ; echo ${#x}
41


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: News item: Removal of Ruby MRI 1.8; Ruby MRI 1.9 and 2.0 now default

[Alex Legler]

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On 08.03.2014 14:25, Alex Xu wrote:
> On 08/03/14 05:37 AM, Tom Wijsman wrote:
>> On Sat, 8 Mar 2014 01:46:52 +0000 (UTC)
>> Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>> 0         1         2         3         4
>>> 012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234
>>> Ruby MRI 1.8 removal; 1.9 recommended default
>>>
>>> (The latter is GLEP 42's max 44 chars exactly, and accurately
>>> represents the recommended eselect ruby setting.)
>>
>>   $ x="Ruby MRI 1.8 removal; 1.9 recommended default" ; echo ${#x}
>>  45
>>
>> Since you have started with 0 instead of 1, you have one character
>> more; thus we'll need to find another character to cut, since that
>> doesn't seem possible I suggest we drop the word "default" instead.
>>
>>   $ x="Ruby MRI 1.8 removal; 1.9 recommended" ; echo ${#x}
>>  37
>>
> 
> $ x="Ruby MRI 1.8 removal; 1.9 now recommended" ; echo ${#x}
> 41
> 

I hereby make trademark claim to the name 'GLEP 42 Title Golf'.

Also, I doubt we're recommending 1.9 over 2.0 (or vice versa).

-- 
Alex Legler <a3li@gentoo.org>
Gentoo Security/Ruby/Infrastructure


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: News item: Removal of Ruby MRI 1.8; Ruby MRI 1.9 and 2.0 now default

[Alex Legler]

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On 08.03.2014 14:52, Alex Legler wrote:
> 
> Also, I doubt we're recommending 1.9 over 2.0 (or vice versa).
> 

scratch that, seems like we are (even though big users like rails
actively push users to 2.0; but that's probably not important here)

-- 
Alex Legler <a3li@gentoo.org>
Gentoo Security/Ruby/Infrastructure


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: News item: Removal of Ruby MRI 1.8; Ruby MRI 1.9 and 2.0 now default

[Manuel Rüger]

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On 03/08/2014 02:56 PM, Alex Legler wrote:
> On 08.03.2014 14:52, Alex Legler wrote:
>> 
>> Also, I doubt we're recommending 1.9 over 2.0 (or vice versa).
>> 
> 
> scratch that, seems like we are (even though big users like rails 
> actively push users to 2.0; but that's probably not important
> here)
> 

See: http://moving-innovations.com/~graaff/targets.svg

Currently most ebuilds work with Ruby 1.9. Ruby 2.0 has already gained
support, but most of these packages don't have a stable keyword.

Cheers,

Manuel
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: News item: Removal of Ruby MRI 1.8; Ruby MRI 1.9 and 2.0 now default

[Manuel Rüger]

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On 03/08/2014 02:25 PM, Alex Xu wrote:
> On 08/03/14 05:37 AM, Tom Wijsman wrote:
>> On Sat, 8 Mar 2014 01:46:52 +0000 (UTC) Duncan
>> <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> 0         1         2         3         4 
>>> 012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234 Ruby MRI 1.8
>>> removal; 1.9 recommended default
>>> 
>>> (The latter is GLEP 42's max 44 chars exactly, and accurately 
>>> represents the recommended eselect ruby setting.)
>> 
>> $ x="Ruby MRI 1.8 removal; 1.9 recommended default" ; echo ${#x} 
>> 45
>> 
>> Since you have started with 0 instead of 1, you have one
>> character more; thus we'll need to find another character to cut,
>> since that doesn't seem possible I suggest we drop the word
>> "default" instead.
>> 
>> $ x="Ruby MRI 1.8 removal; 1.9 recommended" ; echo ${#x} 37
>> 
> 
> $ x="Ruby MRI 1.8 removal; 1.9 now recommended" ; echo ${#x} 41
> 


Thanks for your help!
New title: "Ruby 1.8 removal; Ruby 1.9/2.0 default"

Cheers,

Manuel
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[gentoo-dev] Re: News item: Removal of Ruby MRI 1.8; Ruby MRI 1.9 and 2.0 now default

[Duncan]

Tom Wijsman posted on Sat, 08 Mar 2014 11:37:55 +0100 as excerpted:

>> 0         1         2         3         4
>> 012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234
>> Ruby MRI 1.8 removal; 1.9 recommended default
>> 
>> (The latter is GLEP 42's max 44 chars exactly, and accurately
>> represents the recommended eselect ruby setting.)
> 
>   $ x="Ruby MRI 1.8 removal; 1.9 recommended default" ; echo ${#x}
>  45
> 
> Since you have started with 0 instead of 1,

Oops!  Thanks.  (Now where's that paper bag?)

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