From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1N2YPZ-0005v8-2c for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:51:37 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9D563E0855; Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:51:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ew0-f206.google.com (mail-ew0-f206.google.com [209.85.219.206]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C516E0855 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:51:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy2 with SMTP id 2so168231ewy.34 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 2009 15:51:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:content-type:to:subject :references:date:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:from :message-id:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=kkh3th5eOECjP6BgtJL3rMr9GDZhCydNjrRW/5khCWI=; b=kp58tA7uKGU+oOJxcjRDKoShGgAZzHowAdBv3XkbpVrN1ULFDWZRhhIma9mtNoFeRu 7YQilVYaAdlLVo3r6+U6PQx6ry2LhXu7KObLKp+UEKt2RSfy91Z2ULS3xrIxftYrjWcs WutHQd7ldeP1UmwS6W2eERCvAqYi0Bu2pJAog= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:to:subject:references:date:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:from:message-id:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=aFnGkyEWz8pQhKD2CI2VOkynptaG0TM8h1ALjTEfnA2W57bENIK6wSBI1+otg9JlSy PZmNXj3ViEC+daw64JM/aHhJsmDnhPgOXjIsDrsHWdulWyVrNi9Jsk6oNoX4jmO5Rv+4 prBPOdUEBJJ0GeP5kfvlRRCGcC3u97fFdgEAA= Received: by 10.210.101.1 with SMTP id y1mr1828318ebb.67.1256597494702; Mon, 26 Oct 2009 15:51:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zeerak (0110ds1-abc.0.fullrate.dk [90.185.49.13]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 10sm13521855eyz.11.2009.10.26.15.51.33 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 26 Oct 2009 15:51:34 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Splitting desktop profile to KDE and GNOME References: <200910241542.17701.reavertm@gmail.com> <4AE6012C.6010307@gentoo.org> <200910262140.17777.reavertm@gmail.com> <4AE61BA1.1030106@gentoo.org> Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 23:51:25 +0100 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Zeerak Waseem" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <4AE61BA1.1030106@gentoo.org> User-Agent: Opera Mail/10.00 (Linux) X-Archives-Salt: ea8d4f79-126d-4839-923c-c886c7187944 X-Archives-Hash: e9ce83ffcac51151c2de02637994b457 When it all comes down, I just fail to see how the handbook doesn't provide the pointers. I've always been about getting my system up and running, and then learn whatever needs learning, this means that whilst I didn't have more than a basic knowledge and understanding of useflags when installing, that knowledge has grown due to necessity of using gentoo to it's full potential. I think setting up useflags should be left to the user. A system can be recompiled should the need arise. The reason I chose gentoo as my distribution was that, it seemed to me that it gives you a basic knowledge of the system and then encourages to gain and apply further knowledge according to need. But again, the handbook gives all the necessary pointers, albeit there can occur conflicts that are outside of the range of the handbook, but that's why the forums and the irc channels are there :-) On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:58:57 +0100, Richard Freeman wrote: > I don't see why having some nice polished sets of use flags is a bad > thing. Personally, I find it a pain when I've emerged half of my system > only to find out I left out some critical use flag (my use flags take up > several lines now). Sure, leave users a choice, but there is no harm in > giving them some pointers. > > Gentoo should be fully usable in a USE="" state, but that doesn't mean > that we need to make users start out from this point. > -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/