From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NyR7O-0007NS-Ii for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 04 Apr 2010 14:48:06 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8BB0CE0943; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 14:48:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F191E091F for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 14:47:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-bw0-f223.google.com (mail-bw0-f223.google.com [209.85.218.223]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3D231B4001 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 14:47:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz23 with SMTP id 23so504354bwz.26 for ; Sun, 04 Apr 2010 07:47:40 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.74.163 with HTTP; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 07:47:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4BB8A349.4070006@allenjb.me.uk> References: <20100403163010.1897d663@mail.a3li.li> <4BB7D11F.7060207@gentoo.org> <20100404003152.4b2012da@angelstorm> <4BB8A349.4070006@allenjb.me.uk> Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 17:47:40 +0300 Received: by 10.204.15.134 with SMTP id k6mr5604286bka.96.1270392460527; Sun, 04 Apr 2010 07:47:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [Gentoo Phoenix] an official Gentoo wiki From: Dror Levin To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Archives-Salt: e79e4d5b-7220-4e84-aa6e-76d4bc5bfce7 X-Archives-Hash: 772437e65d5cc012cf12bafe63d7adcd On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 17:33, AllenJB wrote: > I'd like to ask what you think in launching a site that simply clones an > existing site is? Why take all the hard work the editors have put into > their articles on the unofficial wiki and duplicate them on another > site, creating TWO copies, both of which may be updated with different > information. > > This is completely pointless. > > And as someone who has contributed a lot to the existing wiki, I don't > care if it's official or not, but any site I find copying articles I've > contributed to (and certainly the ones I wrote from scratch) will suffer > all the wrath and abuse I can bring to it. That's a shame, but as I said, if the license permits it then we'll move the content, if it doesn't then we won't. > An official wiki should not be used to duplicate the existing unofficial > wiki (and I don't believe this is the intent of the developers who want > one). It should be used to provide additional documentation on top of > that provided by the existing wiki. Creating just another wiki is what's pointless. What I want is to deprecate all unofficial wikis (there are others besides gentoo-wiki.com) which were created simply because there never was an official one and creating chaos, then centralize everything in one official wiki, and build on top of that. Fix the historic mistake. Concentrating information from the forums and various wikis is just the first step. This should be the goal of all of us, yours as well. Who wants to run around all over the internet trying to find relevant information on various forums, wikis, blogs, etc. when an official wiki can remedy a big part of that, making it easier to find what you're searching for. Instead of being scattered around, we want everything in one place, that's how it can be made even better. Dror Levin