From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F487139737 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 12:35:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7837B1428F; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 12:35:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 63DD7E07F7 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 12:35:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZP8lj-0006U5-W3 for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 14:35:04 +0200 Received: from ppp118-209-133-158.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net ([118.209.133.158]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 14:35:03 +0200 Received: from kensington by ppp118-209-133-158.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 14:35:03 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org From: Michael Palimaka Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: useflag policies Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 22:32:27 +1000 Message-ID: References: <55C7AC24.2040503@gentoo.org> <21959.47077.385371.459100@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <55C9CB9F.1060603@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp118-209-133-158.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.1.0 In-Reply-To: <55C9CB9F.1060603@gentoo.org> X-Archives-Salt: d4bd4691-3ac4-4644-a06a-420552474ba1 X-Archives-Hash: d7e6a8aad1e07de445644856c044bb1c On 11/08/15 20:17, Sergey Popov wrote: > 09.08.2015 23:28, Ulrich Mueller пишет: >> I disagree with this. Really, REQUIRED_USE should be used sparingly, >> and IMHO the above is not a legitimate usage case for it. > > So, you prefer to make ugly mess of deps here like i posted before or > introduce some really unneded USE-flag like 'gui', 'qt', etc. to make > users even more confused? > > Really, look at man-db ebuild. Especially on berkdb and gdbm USE flags. > And dependency string like this: > > !berkdb? ( !gdbm? ( sys-libs/gdbm ) ) > > One sentence: "WHAT THE HELL?" > > Imagine that it would be dozen of flags. Is it fun to mess with deps > like this for you? Shall we ban this too? ffmpeg? ( libav? ( media-video/libav:= ) !libav? ( media-video/ffmpeg:0= ) )