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From: dams@gentoo.org
To: Spider <spider@gentoo.org>
Cc: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] desktop
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 10:08:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2wucy8aqx.fsf@krotkine.idm.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030828005840.74aaaf24.spider@gentoo.org> (spider@gentoo.org's message of "Thu, 28 Aug 2003 00:58:40 +0200")

Spider <spider@gentoo.org> said:

> begin  quote
> On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 00:22:51 +0200
> dams@idm.fr wrote:
>
>
>> * What is desktop :
>> desktop would be the project responsible of the desktop part of gentoo
>> Linux, without making global decision, like : should we build a
>> special product for desktop, should we have a modified install, should
>> we restrict some possibility to default...
>
> I'm quite against this turn of development as it will split our meager
> develpomentteam even further and direct resources at maintaining two
> trees in paralell. Even if one is just "desktop cludge" to make the
> DesktopDistribution work, it would require Time and Development.

Maybe I badly expressed myself, I meant that desktop won't build a
special product for desktop, won't ask if we should have a modified install, or
if we restrict some possibility to default...

>
> As a general thread, we could well develop a meta system to create one
> (or more)  generic desktop setup's (I guess we'd at least need two, one
> for KDE and one for Gnome, or people would never shut up. )
>
>
> Preparing a desktop distribution would require a lot of planning though,
> and is something that should be -VERY- carefully planned and documented
> before proceeding.

I don't want dektop to handle a complete desktop distribution, it's out of
scope. Desktop should focus on each desktop component, see how we should
configure it, make it evolve.

The first question is : do we want to have a vanilla desktop environement, or a
gentoo touch in them ?

If we want vanilla DE, then nothing need to be done :) Only maintain the
stuffs, but no config, no tuning...

>
>
>> * The tasks :
> This is where it becomes interesting. Who will do such discussion?
> The management team? The users? The Developers?

desktop guidelines are initiated by management team, discussed and finalized by
desktop devs, and approved by upper management structure.

things are maintained by desktop devs conforming to the desktop guidelines.

>
>
>
>> 
>> 
>> That's why we might begin with a representation of what would the
>>perfect desktop product be, and see if we have everything we need in
>>gentoo. 
>
>
> Thats a slippery slope to follow since it very much depends on the
> purpouse of the desktop (corporate desktops may well -not- include a
> webbrowser) 

I see everything as optional, because you are not obliged to install a web
browser. But if we think this or this web browser is attractive for a desktop
use, we might want to include it.

-- 
dams

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-08-28  8:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-08-27 22:22 [gentoo-dev] desktop dams
2003-08-27 22:58 ` Spider
2003-08-28  0:41   ` Brett I. Holcomb
2003-08-28  0:47     ` Jon Portnoy
2003-08-28  0:58       ` Cedric Veilleux
2003-08-28  1:29       ` Riyad Kalla
2003-08-28  1:48       ` Stuart Herbert
2003-08-28  8:08   ` dams [this message]
2003-08-28 10:25     ` Paul de Vrieze
2003-08-28 10:51       ` dams
2003-08-28 11:08         ` Paul de Vrieze
2003-08-28 11:28           ` dams
2003-08-28 13:37             ` Mike Frysinger
2003-08-29  5:22               ` Luke-Jr
2003-08-28 11:15 ` foser
2003-08-28 12:52   ` dams
2003-08-28 13:21     ` foser
2003-08-28 13:51       ` Stuart Herbert
2003-08-28 14:00       ` Paul de Vrieze
2003-08-28 14:10         ` Michael Cummings
2003-08-28 14:34           ` foser
2003-08-28 14:30         ` foser
2003-08-28 17:44         ` Spider
2003-08-28 19:14           ` Peter Ruskin
2003-08-28 19:24             ` foser
2003-08-28 22:07               ` Peter Ruskin
2003-08-28 20:46             ` dams
2003-08-28 21:34               ` Spider
2003-08-28 22:32                 ` foser
2003-08-28 23:01                   ` dams
2003-08-28 20:35           ` dams
2003-08-28 21:03             ` Spider
2003-08-28 21:21               ` dams
2003-08-28 22:40                 ` foser
2003-08-28 21:07           ` Paul de Vrieze
2003-08-28 14:59       ` dams
2003-08-28 21:17         ` Paul de Vrieze
2003-08-28 23:24       ` Jason Stubbs
2003-08-28 13:54     ` Chris Gianelloni
2003-08-28 15:03       ` dams
2003-08-28 15:09         ` Stuart Herbert
2003-08-28 15:36           ` dams
2003-08-28 15:48             ` jonah benton
2003-08-28 14:04   ` Paul de Vrieze
2003-08-28 14:48     ` foser
2003-08-28 23:30       ` Seemant Kulleen
2003-08-29  1:32         ` Luke-Jr
2003-08-29 14:06           ` dams
2003-08-29 14:18             ` Luke-Jr

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