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From: Michael Palimaka <kensington@gentoo.org>
Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: don't rely on dynamic deps
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 05:30:26 +1000
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On 07/27/2014 05:21 AM, Tom Wijsman wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Jul 2014 03:12:07 +1000
> Michael Palimaka <kensington@gentoo.org> wrote:
> 
>> On 07/26/2014 07:59 AM, Tom Wijsman wrote:
>>> On Wed, 23 Jul 2014 22:14:41 +1000
>>> Michael Palimaka <kensington@gentoo.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 07/23/2014 09:36 AM, Tom Wijsman wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 18:21:00 +1000
>>>>> Michael Palimaka <kensington@gentoo.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> What a great way to kill the distro.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can already heat my house with the number of unnecessary
>>>>>> rebuilds
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you upgrade @world every hour and thus have it cause excessive
>>>>> heat?
>>>>>
>>>>> If I upgrade every X weeks they become much more cool and
>>>>> necessary...
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Shouldn't we strive to avoid the unnecessary rebuilds in the first
>>>> place? Doing updates on your schedule only avoids the symptom, not
>>>> the problem.
>>>
>>> We should strive to do both; cause less rebuilds, update less often.
>>>
>>> It is comparable to flooding on IRC channels; if you send much more
>>> messages, you are much more likely to experience a kick and/or a
>>> ban.
>>>
>>> It is easier not to flood than to convince people there is no
>>> problem with you flooding the channel; out of all the IRC channels
>>> I know of, I've only come across one where they don't mind pasted
>>> long code blocks but that's mostly because of the lack of active
>>> moderation and people.
>>>
>>> (With "flooding" as "updating" and "kick/ban" as "rebuilds")
>>>
>> Each person should update at a frequency that suits them. Recommending
>> to update every $period is not a valid solution to unnecessary
>> rebuilds.
> 
> The more one floods, the more one accepts kicks and/or bans; expected.
> 

How about just not causing the problem in the first place? :-)