From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Mp8nv-0004Rh-57 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 19 Sep 2009 22:53:19 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6103FE0961; Sat, 19 Sep 2009 22:53:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E7A3E0961 for ; Sat, 19 Sep 2009 22:53:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDA2167691 for ; Sat, 19 Sep 2009 22:53:16 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: -2.487 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.487 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=0.112, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nNI81GioE-jC for ; Sat, 19 Sep 2009 22:53:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 342BA6768B for ; Sat, 19 Sep 2009 22:53:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1Mp8ni-00038V-27 for gentoo-dev@gentoo.org; Sun, 20 Sep 2009 00:53:06 +0200 Received: from 87-194-16-43.bethere.co.uk ([87.194.16.43]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 20 Sep 2009 00:53:06 +0200 Received: from couldbe by 87-194-16-43.bethere.co.uk with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 20 Sep 2009 00:53:06 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org From: Mark Bateman Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: Stabilization of Python 3.1 Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 22:52:41 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <200909191848.33225.Arfrever@gentoo.org> <20090919190657.31f109a3@mail.netloc.info> <4AB520DA.7070408@allenjb.me.uk> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 87.194.16.43 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.3) Gecko/20090913 Gentoo Shiretoko/3.5.3 GTB5) Sender: news X-Archives-Salt: 3b0ae2a8-4ec8-45b0-a81d-05f7f94c5f1c X-Archives-Hash: 7206a47d92bb431454a81acb3e8f05dd AllenJB allenjb.me.uk> writes: > > As a user who has spent a lot of time on IRC and the forums supporting > other users, I think I can safely say that stabilizing a version of > python which is not supported by portage will end up in a nightmare > scenario. At the very least portage, python-updater and eselect, if not > the majority of the commonly used tools (whichever of gentoolkit, > portage-utils, eix, etc use python), should support python 3.1 before it > goes stable. 1) All those tools (eselect, python-wrapper, python-updater) are written in other languages specifically to ensure a means to update python 2) There has existed for a very long time patches to portage to make it compatible with python3.x Stabilizing Python3.x isn't really an issue as long as some means to ensure people do not emerge -c a python2.x version (eg adding it to the system profile)