From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MbeAz-0006xg-SM for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 17:33:22 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C061DE03F6; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 17:33:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CE34E03F6 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 17:33:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B630670EC for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 17:33:20 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: -2.834 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.834 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=0.765, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id q50TTvg+Pm2c for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 17:33:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06B41670C6 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 17:33:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1MbeAl-0007NV-DZ for gentoo-dev@gentoo.org; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 17:33:07 +0000 Received: from 87-194-16-43.bethere.co.uk ([87.194.16.43]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 17:33:07 +0000 Received: from couldbe by 87-194-16-43.bethere.co.uk with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 17:33:07 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org From: Mark Bateman Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Make 10.0 profiles EAPI-2 'compliant' Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 17:32:56 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <90b936c0908121058y5fd25cfcm67a19761b1130896@mail.gmail.com> <200908122041.34205.scarabeus@gentoo.org> <20090812194656.47300704@snowcone> <20090813135658.2d497f7b@snowcone> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 87.194.16.43 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.2) Gecko/20090812 Gentoo Shiretoko/3.5.2 GTB5) Sender: news Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 24ea8f45-5525-45ca-ae3e-b8c59d2a0b04 X-Archives-Hash: 4872af542ed1b1fa85cec75edc3a57f9 Ciaran McCreesh googlemail.com> writes: >=20 > On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 12:50:26 +0000 (UTC) > Mark Bateman soon.com> wrote: > > > On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 20:41:30 +0200 > > > Tom=C3=A1=C5=A1 Chv=C3=A1tal gentoo.org> wrote: > > > > Also we should allow the stuff as directory thingus (portage > > > > already handles it right). > > >=20 > > > That's a seperate thing that needs EAPI control. You'll need to > > > propose it for EAPI 4 if you want that. > >=20 > > Except this "stuff as directory" was pre-EAPI and thus the PMS should > > have captured that as EAPI-1 > > Ergo PMS is wrong and needs to be updated to refect reality >=20 > PMS accurately reflects the Portage documentation and the commit > message that introduced the feature -- it's purely for use > in /etc/portage/, which is beyond the scope of PMS. >=20 > It is not the business of PMS to enforce undocumented features that > Portage supports only by accident and that aren't used in the tree. >=20 PMS doesn't depict just what portage should do, just what ebuild's in the= main tree are to expect. This is a good feature (intentional or not) of portage and is already fin= ding usage in overlays. Sure for such a feature to make it into the main tree EAPI it, but as it = stands its fine