From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A8F71381F3 for ; Sun, 16 Jun 2013 13:42:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C5080E08C2; Sun, 16 Jun 2013 13:42:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D25F2E0899 for ; Sun, 16 Jun 2013 13:42:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A2A233E3A9 for ; Sun, 16 Jun 2013 13:42:17 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV at gentoo.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.719 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.719 tagged_above=-999 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=-0.395, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.322, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([IPv6:::ffff:127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [IPv6:::ffff:127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tw1D-Jz5kKIG for ; Sun, 16 Jun 2013 13:42:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1CB6D33DA22 for ; Sun, 16 Jun 2013 13:42:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UoDDZ-0008MG-Qs for gentoo-dev@gentoo.org; Sun, 16 Jun 2013 15:42:05 +0200 Received: from ppp118-209-15-147.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net ([118.209.15.147]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 16 Jun 2013 15:42:05 +0200 Received: from kensington by ppp118-209-15-147.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 16 Jun 2013 15:42:05 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org From: Michael Palimaka Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] SRC_URI behaviour Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 23:41:54 +1000 Message-ID: References: <51BC2C55.7010506@mva.name> <20130615150549.5faa3829@gentoo.org> <51BD05A6.4090209@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp118-209-15-147.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130509 Thunderbird/17.0.6 In-Reply-To: <51BD05A6.4090209@gentoo.org> X-Archives-Salt: 3d466461-d5ab-4b25-b1a5-a54bfe1e5561 X-Archives-Hash: b7b3e916104f2bd911a81ad2f842dc28 On 16/06/2013 10:24, Zac Medico wrote: > How about it we add a src_fetch phase, so that the VCS intricacies can > be delegated to ebuilds/eclasses (like they are now, but without having > to abuse src_unpack). If we include a way for src_fetch to communicate > changes in VCS revisions to the package manager, then we'll be able to > integrate functionality like smart-live-rebuild directly into the > package manager (as discussed in bug 182028 [1]). > > [1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=182028 This sounds interesting. It definitely would be nice to have proper package manager support for VCS. I don't think that this will somehow "legitimise" live ebuilds. We use policies to prevent inappropriate things from entering the tree, not by preventing tools that might facilitate it. Best regards, Michael