From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1O0bpa-0005C7-QH for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 14:38:42 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C86A0E07B3; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 14:38:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-bw0-f223.google.com (mail-bw0-f223.google.com [209.85.218.223]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 025F0E06F4 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 14:38:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz23 with SMTP id 23so532653bwz.26 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 07:38:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:received:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=+E0xljB6jU1aLwPrvW4RhAowVK0qUD6xOj6JaU8u780=; b=vQQiv6txoH5/wMCx2vo2ZLx6lkn9fYfCUAdkSgc7d1UltzNdJcS4HukPMf7cCDmF6N ZfecQAQqWolCrTXcQsc+AvprAPuFhXAjM97XVrw8Oc6kn86zdCtMMyRJ/PVoai8F+us5 Ny+EaH7xtRkdglYJXn0DUuOCvCaA+xMQtanBM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=OFMIY52rGlH/dPZ75hu79TLRAAws2mGyO1KVm2w3BqNd7EoAwQVU3O7fGPgdfyBVdF 5Sg/acdMgBmLTfpk5SLu2rVHQmfzhSlWsxfPTPr+aToo8G+yb/c3IpG/Y6N2oQ3zLoTg ipcjqiJoqR/NJv+vbdFdrHU+gaTGDYkROoKNU= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: yngwin.gentoo@gmail.com Received: by 10.204.33.199 with HTTP; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 07:38:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4BC082EC.4050109@gentoo.org> References: <4BC082EC.4050109@gentoo.org> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 16:38:13 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 04aa8bf63f442601 Received: by 10.204.151.71 with SMTP id b7mr1727156bkw.114.1270910293894; Sat, 10 Apr 2010 07:38:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Who is willing to be lead? From: Ben de Groot To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: b97ce0c7-4e02-4628-a8f6-c6b969482e26 X-Archives-Hash: effd3dd84366eff1a1b78a9bda1dfb48 On 10 April 2010 15:53, Petteri R=C3=A4ty wrote: > As people seem to want the council to take action I offer to take > action. As it's impossible for me to do everything myself I offer to act > as a project manager/owner for people willing to donate their time to > whatever I see worthy for Gentoo as whole I am willing to follow real leaders, who inspire and lead by example, in the words of Ann Marie E. McSwain, Assistant Professor at Lincoln University, =E2=80=9Cleadership is about capacity: the capacity of leaders = to listen and observe, to use their expertise as a starting point to encourage dialogue between all levels of decision-making, to establish processes and transparency in decision-making, to articulate their own values and visions clearly but not impose them. Leadership is about setting and not just reacting to agendas, identifying problems, and initiating change that makes for substantial improvement rather than managing change.=E2=80=9D (quoted from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leadership) You've just shown a striking lack of such leadership. No cheers this time, --=20 Ben de Groot Gentoo Qt project lead developer Gentoo Wiki project lead