From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1R7F9e-0000ZL-62 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 23:27:38 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 057EA21C1F7; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 23:27:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34D9E21C03B for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 23:26:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81F7B1B4053 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 23:26:54 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: -2.996 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.996 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=-0.397, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Z51XWG8HoZSg for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 23:26:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EF8B1B4043 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2011 23:26:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R7F8i-0005NN-D3 for gentoo-dev@gentoo.org; Sat, 24 Sep 2011 01:26:40 +0200 Received: from athedsl-373981.home.otenet.gr ([79.131.12.219]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 24 Sep 2011 01:26:40 +0200 Received: from realnc by athedsl-373981.home.otenet.gr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 24 Sep 2011 01:26:40 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org From: Nikos Chantziaras Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: zlib breakage Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 02:26:15 +0300 Organization: Lucas Barks Message-ID: References: Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: athedsl-373981.home.otenet.gr User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:6.0) Gecko/20110920 Thunderbird/6.0 In-Reply-To: X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: d580e7c959b15a735dbe15aeab9ac600 On 09/24/2011 02:10 AM, Matt Turner wrote: > On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 5:44 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: >> I believe something needs to be done with the zlib-1.2.5.1-r1 and -r2 >> packages currently in the tree. The maintainer of zlib pushed those >> revisions with a patch that alters macro identifiers, making Gentoo's zlib >> incompatible with upstream. As a result, a lot of packages stopped >> building. Bug reports for broken packages come in and then are being >> modified to fit Gentoo's zlib. >> >> Breaking compatibility with upstream zlib also means that non-portage >> software, the ones I install with "./configure --prefix=$HOME/usr&& make >> install", also won't build. >> [...] > > It seemed to me like this was a silly problem from the outset. vapier > did arguably the right thing, and if that means exposing some broken > software, fine. We handle plenty of breakage worse than this, but I > understand that it can be inconvenient. > > However, you completely lost any support when you said > >> Yes, bad idea. But it's in my liberty to write code however I see fit. > > That just makes me want to slap you. > > I'll echo what vapier said in response: it's absolutely your > prerogative to do whatever you want, but it's not our responsibility > to make sure that it works in Gentoo. The code is perfectly valid. You cannot force people to follow your coding standards. If it's valid C code, it doesn't matter that it contradicts your personal preferences. It's not your code and you don't have a saying in it. What's next, banning software that indents code with tabs instead of spaces? >> It's a bad call. You've made plenty of those lately. This is just another one. >> IMO, you don't have the skills and insight to mess with this stuff. So when you >> try, breakage happens. I hope you retire soon. > > Are you kidding me? Grow up. This was just another episode of Vapier's hostile and arrogant behavior towards users. Every time someone comes up with a valid argument of why he's wrong, the final answer is "don't care, I do what I please because I'm the dev and you're not." So my reply was the politest I could come up with without using the f-word.