From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NyeUe-0005AI-2d for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 05:05:00 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9FAD0E0B51; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 05:04:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pz0-f181.google.com (mail-pz0-f181.google.com [209.85.222.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35FF5E0AF2 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 05:04:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk11 with SMTP id 11so473003pzk.32 for ; Sun, 04 Apr 2010 22:04:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:received:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=LRiQWH7vrILkc6rAHGacYIPtJer3aLnR1FDMsxzRdDg=; b=juKmLwiKhIWMD+SdtT3itXtx7CEr7mcX6rpk46AD8MQflKCDMNQxje3kjSCpnU0J19 F1qZ4n6QrdOBW+86JCneZ0qDifU8lmspe5m/NPxN5ofKZ4egGy4K33Tg3u5aWfMpg3pa qTtdNYyfmS8r+ysnb/dw4pwAWZYS+Gab8oyhQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; b=BeXEfpmOoVFIvxnQ4Rtjva4EzvfsK9V2q/RTqOH4eJ72zSDLtLUbB4AEwiZnzDtuHV xqQxyM4bl7DfvYKJBKp1E10EuxADRy1WMAUSh+Df/RVmsBpNQOSjwRXSMr/VS+jl3gWR nntooW7p4zHRvivsRz8bUUNr4Vm339G9bJYHg= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: arunissatan@gmail.com Received: by 10.140.162.2 with HTTP; Sun, 4 Apr 2010 22:04:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4BB7D11F.7060207@gentoo.org> <20100404003152.4b2012da@angelstorm> <20100404123323.1689e9d4@angelstorm> <20100404181333.6dab27c2@angelstorm> From: Arun Raghavan Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 10:34:25 +0530 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 7ce6b173f4e45969 Received: by 10.141.91.19 with SMTP id t19mr3284249rvl.104.1270443885162; Sun, 04 Apr 2010 22:04:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [Gentoo Phoenix] an official Gentoo wiki To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Archives-Salt: cdf1dd22-8a96-4f2b-bfe8-9402d0e3557a X-Archives-Hash: 827301aa3a33f433f663b42239a64feb On 5 April 2010 08:13, Ben de Groot wrote: > On 5 April 2010 03:13, Joshua Saddler wrote: [...] >> Really, you're mostly making a case for a graphical XML editor like Beacon, rather than making a case for a wiki. :) > > That would already be a big improvement, yes. > >> That's your problem, then. Do you know what semantic means? > > Yes, I do. No need to be condescending. > >> But you're not a web author, > > I am, altho not as active lately. > >> Why the hell do you keep bringing up HTML? Stop comparing GuideXML with HTML. Treat them as two separate languages, please. > > Because clearly GuideXML is based on HTML. And anyone who knows HTML > will likely be confused by some features of GuideXML. I can't treat > them as completely separate, as there is too much overlap. > >> I only mentioned GuideXML in the context of "it's easier to learn because it has fewer tags than HTML" -- you operate under the mistaken assumption that GuideXML should be *like* HTML, > > No, I wish it weren't, but it *is* like HTML. > >> and that HTML has too many tags. > > I never said that. > >> You assume that everyone comes from an HTML background and thus will be confused by GuideXML. > > I would think that most people that become involved with Gentoo have > most likely been exposed to some HTML coding. You guys should take a while to cool off at this stage. Quite frankly, the documentation project is just another open source project - if anyone wants to change how things are done, the only real way to do that is join the team, prove that you are dedicated and committed, and promote change from the inside. Cheers, -- Arun Raghavan http://arunraghavan.net/ (Ford_Prefect | Gentoo) & (arunsr | GNOME)