From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Ny4c8-00065r-AZ for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 03 Apr 2010 14:46:20 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 32842E0C29; Sat, 3 Apr 2010 14:46:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-bw0-f223.google.com (mail-bw0-f223.google.com [209.85.218.223]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7BAFE07EB for ; Sat, 3 Apr 2010 14:46:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz23 with SMTP id 23so57128bwz.26 for ; Sat, 03 Apr 2010 07:46:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:received:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=PWUu0vk9gllmHC5gIU47pBt64QADIScT/IjlVfI9c10=; b=DAMebtVF6RTfU3yXTK4uJU6YP362MTKSQVlhlo84oKQ6QE9o+k8oJN0XZzNfw+6E5r Nd3/HgL5gEuza36ixROUn4niyyrLK4i0aiSe7WCEUX9m5NWmB/VSloN25AOcJsahaWTk 0zzzqwzpNMNQYaOV6a+1WRgJp3EfxEtDe3QRI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=ucBRKCO4MVhvovild7aguYuXy7I9bbXnRpEaia7+3a3x6ewI6P3mPtnBiPPqVRXzbm oqgTZ1ph8YuCyXfmXZ2DDCAMtpkWWYRN29zMW8Wpn59AekUcr0O4Ogk6pFjcCPK2Hxvb JYWinNYbcfF6u2LdKuZ0Vkg6P92p1XOGBA3SQ= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: yngwin.gentoo@gmail.com Received: by 10.204.33.199 with HTTP; Sat, 3 Apr 2010 07:46:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20100403163010.1897d663@mail.a3li.li> References: <20100403163010.1897d663@mail.a3li.li> Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 16:46:10 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 7ec4fa4f97c93927 Received: by 10.204.48.20 with SMTP id p20mr4352260bkf.56.1270305970269; Sat, 03 Apr 2010 07:46:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [Gentoo Phoenix] an official Gentoo wiki From: Ben de Groot To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Archives-Salt: 649ea567-271e-4b0d-9b7c-c97b865a1873 X-Archives-Hash: ba4e194a603e64de48da66cea87d7902 On 3 April 2010 16:30, Alex Legler wrote: > I propose to use MediaWiki. As I said in my other post, MediaWiki and MoinMoin should, in my opinion, be on our shortlist to consider. > I'd be interested in helping out with the backend part, i.e. setting up > and maintaining the Wiki software and the needed extensions, > user management and support. Thanks, that would certainly be helpful. > Here's another idea: > The German Wikipedia uses a concept called "sighted revisions". If you > visit an article without logging in you will see the latest sighted > revision, as an identified user you can also view the latest revision. That's an interesting idea, which we should consider. >> Is there anything else we should consider before getting started? >> > > Maybe we should discuss what goals we want to reach with a Wiki. > > One thing is offering user-contributed documentation, of course. > But do we also want a developer wiki? Or offer per-project realms in our > wiki? Or $something_else? Good suggestion. I think we would want to accommodate both user-contributed documentation and developer needs. For example, recently the need arose to have a wiki page for GSoC ideas. Projects may want to use it as well. I find myself using the wiki at gitorious.org (where we also host our overlay) for purposes of the Qt herd. It would also be handy for developing new documentation (it would have helped for the LXDE guide, or the Qt4 ebuild development howto) as well as keeping existing documentation up to date. GuideXML documents are often experienced as an unnecessary barrier. What else do we want it for and how would that impact organization? -- Ben de Groot Gentoo Linux Qt project lead developer