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Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: Stabilization of Python 3.1
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 20:33:13 +0300
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On 09/19/2009 08:21 PM, Dale wrote:
> Dirkjan Ochtman wrote:
>> On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 19:06, Alex Legler<a3li@gentoo.org> wrote:
>>
>>> What is the point of stabilizing it if users shouldn't use it as main
>>> interpreter? Just leave it in ~arch until it can be safely used.
>>>
>>
>> Making it easily available so that people can port stuff, so that the
>> entire world may be able to use it as their main interpreter sooner?
>>
>> Seriously, it's out there, there's no reason to keep it from stable.
>> Just prevent people from making python invoke 3.x and everything will
>> be fine.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Dirkjan
>>
>>
>>
>
> Isn't ~arch supposed to be for testing? Isn't that the point of having
> ~arch?
For testing, yes. But what about people who want to use it? Not for
portage, not as main interpreter, but simply "use it." Python is a
programming language and has many uses, it's not only there to make
portage happy. There are people who actually use it, and those people
would like it stabilized. Just because portage isn't ported to 3.x yet
shouldn't mean it can't go stable if there are no blockers about 3.x itself.