From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LA3AM-00086N-5k for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2008 14:02:23 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E327EE06D6; Tue, 9 Dec 2008 14:02:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3D6AE06D6 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2008 14:02:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DE2665116 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2008 14:02:20 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: -0.852 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.852 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=0.680, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO=2.067] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sVpySN-aye9l for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2008 14:02:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 523506543B for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2008 14:02:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1LA3A3-0007jr-Ov for gentoo-dev@gentoo.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2008 14:02:03 +0000 Received: from 82.152.205.28 ([82.152.205.28]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 09 Dec 2008 14:02:03 +0000 Received: from slong by 82.152.205.28 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 09 Dec 2008 14:02:03 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org From: Steve Long Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: app-admin/eselect needs YOUR help Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2008 13:54:18 +0000 Message-ID: References: <49398A33.2070203@gentoo.org> <20081206154415.37b1c14e@snowcone> <20081207074439.GB8968@comet.hsd1.or.comcast.net> <20081207144633.3d233dc8@snowcone> <20081208163742.GA2455@comet> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.152.205.28 User-Agent: KNode/0.10.9 Sender: news X-Archives-Salt: 296d7b0c-a0f7-457e-97d2-5e2371aaa4cc X-Archives-Hash: 7df4ff0f5c51f4216adea2d294d37ca5 Donnie Berkholz wrote: > Ciaran McCreesh wrote: >> Donnie Berkholz wrote: >> > I hadn't heard of it before, thanks for the ref. What was the reason >> > for forking the codebase? It gets pretty annoying to copy across >> > useful changes, especially while eselect is stuck in svn. >> >> Ease of getting things done. Going through Gentoo requires finding a >> Gentoo maintainer, endless bikeshed arguments about how to implement >> things like the new alternatives framework and then months of waiting >> for approval. > > Open and public debate about the right way to do things does take > longer, and it's something you certainly participate in quite frequently > so I'm surprised to hear you badmouth it when it comes to your own > ideas. > You should have posted this to -project imo, as it's not about any technical points, but rather about non-technical aspects of development.