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From: Steve Long <slong@rathaus.eclipse.co.uk>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-dev]  Re: [RFC] PROPERTIES=set for meta-packages that should behave like package sets
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 20:52:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <gbrc69$ts8$1@ger.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 48E076A3.5060401@gentoo.org

Zac Medico wrote:

> Rémi Cardona wrote:
>> Zac Medico a écrit :
>>> Please consider a PROPERTIES=set value that allows an ebuild to
>>> indicate that it should behave like a package set when selected on
>>> the command line. This is behavior is somewhat difficult to describe
>>> in words but the following example should be sufficient to convey
>>> the general idea.
>> 
>> As one of the maintainers of the gnome-base/gnome meta, I fail to see
>> the usefulness of such a change. We have yet to ask users to rebuild
>> "gnome" completely. Do you have any specific use cases (maybe coming
>> from the KDE herd, since you used the kde meta as an example) ?
>> 
>> The one thing that bothers me about this is consistency: if, say, xfce
>> (let's change ;) ) decides to use PROPERTIES=set, users will have a
>> different experience with their ebuild than with the other metas we
>> currently ship.
>>
Only when they consciously use the set syntax, surely?
 
>> All in all, I'm not really against such a change, however I really fail
>> to see the win for everyone, end-users included.
> 
> Over the course of the discussion I've revised the idea so that it
> essentially represents a way to define a package set, without any
> changes to existing behavior. What will change is that we will have
> a new way to define package sets, based on ebuilds.

Makes sense to me, though not sure you need the mapping file. I'm perfectly
happy about emerge -uDN @kde-meta say, updating all kde-meta packages I
might have installed; I take it that after emerge kde-meta to install, and
then removing some of the packages, the user could continue to reference
the set for upgrade, without portage reinstalling those?





  reply	other threads:[~2008-09-29 20:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-09-28  0:21 [gentoo-dev] [RFC] PROPERTIES=set for meta-packages that should behave like package sets Zac Medico
2008-09-28 15:24 ` Marius Mauch
2008-09-28 17:42   ` Zac Medico
2008-09-28 20:26     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-09-28 20:44       ` Zac Medico
2008-09-28 20:32 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-09-28 20:53   ` Zac Medico
2008-09-28 21:01     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-09-28 22:11       ` Zac Medico
2008-09-28 22:28         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-09-28 22:56           ` Zac Medico
2008-09-28 23:02             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-09-28 23:37               ` Zac Medico
2008-09-29 15:13                 ` Bo Ørsted Andresen
2008-09-29 19:52                   ` Zac Medico
2008-09-30  4:47                     ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2008-09-30  5:31                       ` Zac Medico
2008-10-01  4:35                         ` [gentoo-dev] " Ryan Hill
2008-10-01 16:37                           ` Zac Medico
2008-10-02  2:51                             ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2008-10-04  6:05                               ` Ryan Hill
2008-10-04  6:42                                 ` Ryan Hill
2008-10-04 17:17                                   ` Zac Medico
2008-10-05 17:55                                     ` Ryan Hill
2008-10-13  2:11                                       ` Steve Long
2008-10-02 12:19                             ` Robert Bridge
2008-09-29  2:52             ` Duncan
2008-09-29  6:40               ` Zac Medico
2008-09-29 11:52                 ` Duncan
2008-09-29  6:04 ` [gentoo-dev] " Rémi Cardona
2008-09-29  6:33   ` Zac Medico
2008-09-29 19:52     ` Steve Long [this message]
2008-09-29 20:28       ` [gentoo-dev] " Zac Medico
2008-09-29 20:42         ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long

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