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From: Steve Long <slong@rathaus.eclipse.co.uk>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-dev]  Re: Re: Default src_install for EAPI-2 or following EAPI
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 02:34:33 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <gbc5v2$50d$1@ger.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 48D94608.7060805@gentoo.org

Thomas Sachau wrote:

> Ulrich Mueller schrieb:
>> And I still don't see why we would need the most general solution for
>> a *default* function. There's always the possibility to write your own
>> src_install() for the few ebuilds that need it.
>> 
> I aggree with Ulrich in this case.

As I said; generality in lib functions seems like a useful thing. There's a
quote I read from what is imo a classic computing text[1] (from the 70s,
never seen it referenced in any papers or anything):

"Why do we never have time to do it right,
but always plenty of time to do it over."

>                 if emake DESTDIR="${D} install || einstall ; then
missing " Don't those braces make it tricky.. ;p

> Any more comments? Good? Bad? Interested?

Given that we're okay relying on BASH, I don't think we should be scared to
use BASH effectively. Gentoo ebuild.sh should be a shining example of how
BASH is done, after eight years, not something that makes #bash folk laugh.

(I know this to be true, as when I started learning BASH, I tried dropping a
few of the lines in the channel to find out what was going on. It amazes me
that #bash is not mentioned in any of the Gentoo developer documentation,
afaict.)

In this case, you're saying "oh anyone who wants something that copes with
all filenames can do their own." IOW to do it right, we'll have to do it
over, further down the line.

BASH includes the facilities to do it right, as part of its design.

[1] "Program Style, Design, Efficiency, Debugging and Testing" van Tessel
(Prentice-Hall, 1974)





  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-09-24  1:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found] ` <be8YL-33V-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <be9Lf-478-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
2008-09-21  6:18     ` [gentoo-dev] Re: Default src_install for EAPI-2 or following EAPI Vaeth
2008-09-21 11:44       ` Thomas Anderson
2008-09-21 12:03       ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2008-09-21 13:04         ` [gentoo-dev] " Ulrich Mueller
2008-09-21 17:30           ` Kent Fredric
2008-09-21 18:50             ` Ulrich Mueller
2008-09-21 20:23               ` Steve Long
2008-09-21 20:46                 ` Ulrich Mueller
2008-09-21 21:10                   ` Steve Long
2008-09-23 19:39                   ` Thomas Sachau
2008-09-23 23:21                     ` Bo Ørsted Andresen
2008-09-24  5:28                       ` Alec Warner
2008-09-24  9:01                         ` Bo Ørsted Andresen
2008-09-24  7:46                       ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2008-09-27 10:17                         ` Thomas Sachau
2008-09-28 18:24                           ` [gentoo-dev] Usage of econf with an additional || die Thomas Sachau
2008-09-28 18:28                             ` Vlastimil Babka
2008-09-30  6:55                             ` Peter Volkov
2008-09-30 10:36                               ` Ben de Groot
2008-09-30 12:03                                 ` Jeremy Olexa
2008-09-30 16:47                                   ` Thomas Sachau
2008-09-30 17:10                                     ` Matthias Schwarzott
2008-09-30 10:39                               ` Zac Medico
2008-09-29  5:16                           ` [gentoo-dev] Re: Default src_install for EAPI-2 or following EAPI Nirbheek Chauhan
2008-09-30 17:05                             ` Petteri Räty
2008-10-05  8:52                               ` [gentoo-dev] " Ulrich Mueller
2008-10-05 14:15                                 ` Robert Buchholz
2008-10-05 15:45                                   ` Ulrich Mueller
2008-10-05 16:47                                     ` Robert Buchholz
2008-10-05 17:03                                       ` Ulrich Mueller
2008-10-05 17:58                                       ` Thomas Sachau
2008-09-24  0:35                     ` [gentoo-dev] " Robert Buchholz
2008-09-24  8:26                       ` Santiago M. Mola
2008-09-24  1:34                     ` Steve Long [this message]
2008-09-24  6:38                       ` Ulrich Mueller
2008-09-24 16:21                         ` [gentoo-dev] OT: " Steve Long
2008-09-24 16:33                           ` [gentoo-dev] " Steve Long
2008-09-24  6:40                       ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2008-09-22  1:35       ` Alec Warner
2008-09-22  8:22         ` Duncan
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     [not found] ` <beqsE-8pJ-15@gated-at.bofh.it>
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     [not found]     ` <beqsD-8pJ-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]       ` <bew51-7fR-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
2008-09-21 22:11         ` [gentoo-dev] " Vaeth

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